Thursday, April 16, 2009

Sahaj Marg

Concept of sahaj marg is fundamentally wrong. It is not a spiritual or religious system, but outcome of hallucination. Ignoring the acts of criminal minded P. rajagopalachari and his bete noire Navneet, Kasturi and K.C Naryana, if we try and analyze concept of sahaj marg itself we can come to a conclusion that it is just a business like any other business group, aim is to make money, please keep in mind we do not have unselfish people nowadays.

Before we move into analysis of sahaj marg, we must observe the outcome of sahaj marg which is present currently, I am not going to attempt to demonstrate any psychic phenomena from a scientific basis, because it will require a great deal of preparation for both the presenter as well as audience, therefore i will not demonstrate sahaj marg directly but we will demonstrate the outcome of teachings of sahaj marg which in turn will explain sahaj marg in detail.

If we have to give an psychic explanation of sahaj marg, it will require the subjective and the objective side. In case of sahaj marg we have subjective side (transmission) but the objective side is missing... (where does it lead to???)

To make this point more clear, as why sahaj marg is rotten, Take example of chemistry and physics, with which we are so familiar, and of which we have read so much, is it true that everyone in this world is able to understand the demonstration even of the commonest subjects? Take any boor and show him one of your experiments. What will he understand of it? Nothing. It requires a good deal of previous training to be brought up to the point of understanding an experiment. Before that he cannot understand it at all. That is a area difficulty in the way. If scientific demonstration mean bringing down certain facts to a plane which is universe for all human beings, where all beings can understand it I doubt that there can be any such scientific demonstration for any subject in the world. So, on the face of it, it is absurd if this be the meaning of scientific demonstration, the bringing down of intricate facts to the plane on which we are now.

The next approach should be the correct one, perhaps, that certain facts should be adduced as proving certain more intricate facts. There are certain more complicated intricate phenomena, which we explain by less intricate ones, and thus get, perhaps, nearer to them; in this way they are gradually brought down to the plane of our present ordinary consciousness.

Therefore choosing the second option, lets try and bring down sahaj marg to our plan and understand it, first step is to observe the immediate outcome of sahaj marg which is present in our own time, currently, right now, we will not go into past, nor we intend to predict the future, we will observe the ground reality which is present currently.

After Ram Chandra expired in 1983, battle for ownership started, this in itself demonstrates that Ram Chandra was not an enlighten person nor was he a person who could enable people become more subtle and loving, because if this was the case, people who were very close to him would not have become lusty and power hungry.

There are at-least 5 branches of sahaj marg started by Ram Chandra (aka babuji). We will not consider off-shoots of lalaji because it has been established before that lalaji has nothing to do with sahaj marg. ( see here .)

Five people representing sahaj marg currently are:-

1. Navneet Saxena (

2. K. C Narayana (

3. Kasturi Chaturvedi ( as in case of other cult’s she is also scared of criticism hence their blog is blocked

4. Raghvendra Rao (

5. P Rajagopalachari (

Therefore first outcome of sahaj marg which is evident by the fact presented above, and which we can easily understand using common sense is "division". Sahaj Marg is divisive, we can safely conclude from this, that anyone who is going to get involve in sahaj marg will eventually become like the people above, who cannot stay together with their group or society, and will branch out claiming themselves to be the rightful owner of sahaj marg.

The second outcome of sahaj marg which is visible is "greed" which always results in "violence", "manipulation" and "cunning approach", example is capture of various properties and hostile takeovers of one group over other, this is also a sahaj marg outcome (see here). There is no denying fact that P. Rajagopalachari was associated with Babuji, and from the letters written by Babuji himself it is evident that Chari was close to him as well, now looking at the behavior and acts of P. Rajagopalachari, we can safely conclude what type of teachings he has gone through and what has made him the kind of person he is today, its SAHAJ MARG, P. Rajagopalachari not only claims himself to represent sahaj marg, but also claims that babuji appointed him as his successor, and all he is doing is propagating the teachings of babuji. Therefore "greed", "violence", "manipulation" and "cunningness" forms the character of sahaj marg, and are integral part of this concept.

Third outcome of sahaj marg is "divorces", this in turn destabilizes the society and makes sahaj marg an anti-social and harmful cult (see here). Sahaj Marg as a concept is directly responsible for all the divorces happened inside this cult, because it teaches that "Master" is most important person in life of its victim, no method is defined in sahaj marg for roll-back process, sahaj marg explains only how one can join it, (three sitting with a lusty preceptor) there is no process defined on how to un-join sahaj marg, this one way approach is what is responsible for divorces.

Fourth outcome of sahaj marg is suicidal tendencies, (see here) and statement from one of the representative of Babuji

And I pray to you, beloved Master, to grant us this privilege of rejoining you in the brighter world as soon as possible

Note:-Only dead people live in "brighter world"

We do not intend to discuss all the googblygoody talks about sahaj marg, that it has to be felt, and there is some kind of transmission happening in there, and if you imagine smoke going out from you back you are actually elevating spiritually, because there is no evidence nor any logical proof nor there is any attempt from srcm to explain these claims by explaining certain lower aspects which can be explained and understood, which in turn would testify for something higher if there is anything of that sort, for example imagining smoke going out from your back side, how anyone can become spiritual? there is no answer to this, neither there is any attempt from those propagating it to explain it, therefore we have the liberty to accept that, which is visible and is evident. Now what we have understood, clearly demonstrates and points out, that sahaj marg is not a spiritual practice but a mind controlling, brainwashing cult (the concept itself), which is divisive, harmful, induces suicidal tendencies, instigates divorces, induces hallucination and reduces capacity of rational thinking, negates positive human growth, and suppress natural spiritual quest. (no particular group but the concept itself).

This confirms that sahaj marg is not spiritual or religious group but is a harmful cult similar to jim jhones Peoples temple or AA kind of a thing.

These are the basic characteristic of sahaj marg, and any group which claims to teach sahaj marg is basically propagating qualities explained, these are part of sahaj marg, and any group claiming to teach anything other then this, is not teaching sahaj marg but something else.

Have a look at all these glaring realities about sahaj marg and instead of trying to squeeze oil from stone, become normal and get rid of sahaj marg and help others also to get rid of this disease.


Wednesday, April 08, 2009

A Fake spiritual Guru

Common sense tells us that we must always test claims of people before we accept them as fact, we may accept a person as good by assuming good faith, till that person does not demonstrate him/herself to be otherwise, but as far as accepting any claim, it must be proved and must satisfy our intellect.

In-case of Sahaj marg, there is no proof, no logical conclusion, nothing exists to establish the validity of this system. The most prominent aspect which is clearly visible in sahaj marg is elevation of ego, and breaking of families associated with it. Since our objective is to enable people to think for themselves and do not fall in trap created by cunning and manipulative guru of sahaj marg (California based) and his army of lusty preceptors, we tried to find out as how do we distinguish between a fake and an real enlighten master.

To start with here is one video i found on youtube, where someone is explaining precisely the same thing.

I do not know as who this person is, i have never heard his name, nor i have visited his website or website of people dis-satisfied with him, nevertheless, I find his explanation to be worthy of discussion, and putting P. Rajagopalachari under the scanner of this person's explanation.

In his statement person in video has explained certain characteristics of an enlighten master and those of fake cunning guru's.

I will list down the gist of comments made in this video and below each comment i will put what chari say's:-

1. It is very difficult to prove that a person is enlighten because such a person would never say that s/he is enlighten.

Here is Chari claiming that he is a liberated one

I told Babuji one day in Shahjahanpur, I think it was in 1968 or '69. He congratulated me and said, "Now you are liberated."

2. True enlighten masters are very simple, and down to earth, mostly they are not even noticed, because they never declare themselves to be a master.

Chari is fighting battles in courts to prove that he is an enlighten master.

3. Even if animals pass by an enlighten master, they forget their birth enmity towards other animals, like snakes and mongoose, in presence of an enlighten master, they forget their birth enmity towards each other.

Chari himself has various criminal cases against him which are related to violence, fraud and cheating, people who are closely related to him, like general secretory U.S bajpai, vice president A. P Duari, and all most all members of his inner circle, they all have criminal cases against them for violence

4. In case of any natural calamity, place where an enlighten master is present there will be little or no effect.

Recently there were floods in Chennai, this is what happened in Sahaj marg head quarters

"The flood this November has been the worst so far. Water has never entered the cottage, but last night there was nearly two feet of water inside the cottage. The compound wall in the rear - Lion gate to the cascade, behind the Babuji Mantap - has collapsed. In the general dining area there is more than six feet of water. At the North-Eastern end, there is reportedly nearly ten feet of water. The parking area in front is under five feet of water. The ashram has been evacuated yesterday late evening, and today all will be moved to a Kalyana Mantapam [wedding hall] in Mylapore, along with residents behind the ashram in the Garden Road. The Police Commissioner has promised to assist with boats, which will hopefully arrive in a few hours time..."

5. An enlighten master would never force anyone to do anything.

Here is Chari forcing people to buy his costly book messages from brighter world:-
So I would take this opportunity of imploring you all to read these messages again and again. Read it with, you know, an open heart so that the meaning goes into you direct into the heart without going through the brain. We have to bypass the brain if you are going to be a spiritual person seriously interested in your evolution. Anything that you subject to your brain for evaluation will only doom you to further slavery. I hope you will take this last warning of mine to heart - put away your head completely.

And here is Chari hammering stuffs in his victims:-

See, this sentence is to be hammered into your hearts. If you can't accept it, somebody should hammer it. Keep your Master happy under all circumstances.

6. All enlighten masters do not depend on any books, their knowledge come by itself, because soul has infinite power.

Chari has been trying very very hard to sell his book, "Brighter World" In my books of Sahaj Marg, what Babuji wrote, often a book is one sentence. But that sentence has to be opened, analyzed, gone into, day after day, and then you will find that it is really a book. Please try it. Thank you.

7. A fake guru would not allow you to react, whereas an enlighten master will always encourage you to react.

Chari has always been saying one must not react, the only requirement to is to become a mindless obedient drone. No questions. Totally unquestioning obedience is the only requirement of this spiritual way that I know, Sahaj Marg. The moment you start asking questions, it is implicit that you are questioning the wisdom of your Master, the intentions of your Master and his existence itself - never done, except at the peril of your own evolution.

Hence we find that Chari and his sahaj marg, does not even stand anywhere close to a definition of true enlighten master or a true spiritual system, across a very amateur standard of spirituality.

Open your eyes and look at this fake manipulative and cunning guru, get rid of him, and start living a free life, which is truly spiritual. Do not fall in traps of sahaj marg.
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