Divorces in Sahaj Marg

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Unbearable Pain

Forced Divorces, Dividing Families (Sahaj Marg's Spirtual approach towards families of its victim)

My note:- Problem is not because these divorces happened, problem is in not accepting the responsibility and correcting the issues pointed out by those who suffered, problem is in insensitivity towards the pain of those who are not part of the cult directly but are affected indirectly because of teachings of sahaj marg.

Sahaj marg states that one's material and spiritual needs are balanced simply and naturally.

This is the public face of this NATURAL PATH, called Sahaj Marg. Reality is however far far away from this, below is some of the testimonilas of people who have gone through this unspeakable unexplainable and unbearable pain, suffering and mental agony, all because of SPIRITUAL PROGRESS, these innocent people have unknowingly put their faith in a brainwashing, mind-controlling CULT.

Recently chari has announced that he has been successful in destroying 3 families. 3 of the marriages which were arranged by chari were broken down the same day it took place:-
increasingly marriages are getting troublesome. People get married here by the grace of my Guru, my Master, and they run into trouble. Some of them, fortunately only a few, the marriage is finished on the day of the marriage itself. So far we have had three cases. But it is a tragedy for me because, as Babuji said, even one drop of poison in a big vessel of milk means a big vessel full of poison. Here we don�t judge spiritual progress by success, we judge it by failure. And in that sense our marriages have failed too often for my comfort. Though my boys tell me, �Only three, saab [sir].� Should not have been even one.

Here comes the most harmful aspect of sahaj marg, the marriages arranged inside the cult is the most harmful aspect of sahaj marg which is demonstrated here, I will try to explain this concept little bit more, Indian society is one of the most stable societies in the world, there has been numerous attacks from foreign invaders who even ruled over India from time to time, but the basic infrastructure of Indian society has remained stable by and large over a period of 20,000 yrs of known history. The reason for this stability can be credited to stable marriages in India, Indians believe that union of two souls into one, culminates in marriage, and a through analysis of birth charts is done of both the bride and the groom before marriage, there is scientific reason behind this also, since astrology is not in the scope of this discussion hence I will keep it out.

This cult of sahaj marg is striking at the very foundation of stable society of India, by instigating divorces, a divorced women (and men also) mostly indulge in illicit activities for fulfillment of their natural needs; sahaj marg fosters such illicit activities by enhancing the number of divorced people in our society.

The above statement from chari explains the fact that he has made a joke of something which was foundation of our stable society, if a marriage is finished the same day it took place (according to chari he is successful in doing it 3 times till now) the sanity of marriage is destroyed here, marriage is not something which happens every alternate year, it is once in life time activity, chari has been instrumental in causing hawk in numerous families till now. By breaking marriages chari is basically striking at the foundation of our society, there by creating more and more venerable people, who can easily be manipulated fooled, used and abused by cunning creatures like chari.

The sole reason as why chari started marrying people inside the cult was to create more and more dependency on him, and his cult on the life�s of its victim. Marriage is very personal to every individual, and when chari intrudes in that domain also, there is almost no scope left for the victim to have an independent analytical mind, which can question the methodologies used by chari and his criminal gang to manipulate and milk people of not only their money but also peace of life.

Below are some of the testimonial of people who have suffered this unbareable pain of seperation from their life partner ONLY BECAUSE OF MANIPULATION AND CUNNINGNESS OF CHARI.

Michel Gilbert
The parents are divorced and the mother, a member of a sect, has custody of the children. Faced with this scenario quite often, justice hesitates between the need to protect children and to safeguard the freedom of belief

"At first I did not worry. Meditate They came to the house as a group. Children were not affected. I even tried, but it was not my thing. I treat with a certain irony. " Michel Gilbert then shared ten years of the existence of Frances, dentist, with whom he had two children, ages 5 and 2 and a half years.

The couple is in financial difficulty: it has more work and decided to become a father at home. Increasingly, his partner engages in frequent meditation and a group called Shri Ram Chandra Mission, which is based in Madras, India.

Its members engage in meditation sahaj marginal, inspired by the rajah yoga, according to the teaching of a master appointed Shri Ram Chadraji Maharaj, said Babuji.

The latter requires an absolute devotion to its fans and wants to "educate the masses and spread among them the art and science of yoga." For seven months, Michel sees this growing influence. In December 1998, the report Vivien class Shri Ram Chandra among the sects. 2 000 people were members. The father is concerned. In January 1999, the group makes him feel that it is undesirable. At the end of February, Fran篩se spoke of separation, made room apart. He realizes that it is preparing a trip to India for the anniversary of the master, and then she had an affair with another follower. On 29 June, Michel was hospitalized for an ulcer. It brings children in Spain. On August 15, Michel Gilbert attack the sect for child abduction. On Dec. 21, an order to entrust custody to the mother. Since then, he has been able to get to see them in a point-rencontre. He had no information about their address, their school. "When I see, my son is as off. I tried to get in touch with the sect in India: I had no response. "

Vincint

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I married in 1968. My wife discovered yoga, it was interested in the boudhism and spirituality in general. All went marvelously well. we had 2 children, a girl and a boy. She started to contemplate that made just 30 years. I knew later that it was already Sahaj Marg. Enough quickly it spoke only about that. It stopped all these other activities. It spent its time with the other followers. It forgot our children who were very small. It tested of me entrainer with it. I am not especially attracted by their spirituality but I was interested in his Sahaj Marg. I read their books, I discussed with them. I even tested their meditation. I was with large a sitting with their large Chari guru. But that did not impassion me and I finished by very dropped. My wife was not content, it wanted that I make even more efforts. She reproached me for being materialist and not to have enough interest for the spiritual one… and then she went on a journey in India. She returned in anger against me. She had become tutor, i.e. whom she trained the new followers. She did not speak to me any more. She was unaware of me. Our life of couple did not exist any more! We ended up divorcing almost 10 years after its entry in this sect. Of course, it A had the guard of our 2 children who were almost banked-up beds at the time. They were very disturbed by our separation. They reproached me for having left. Today they are large. They have all the 2 joined the sect. It is their Chari guru who married them, with other followers obviously. And maintaining here that I am several times grandfather. My little children grow. Tomorrow they will be them also banked-up beds. And I do not want that they enter the sect. For this reason I reacted today after having been so a long time quiet. All his years spent, I put side my opinions to try to keep good relations with my children. It was not easy but I succeeded in not completely not cutting the bridges. Except that maintaining it is with the turn of my little childrens

Micheal

Wife thought it would be a good thing to feed our two sons insecticide if I decided to leave her. She decided to take some herself so that she might avoid the consequences. She decided to use her money to purchase curses from black magicians so that I would be haunted in the death of my family, cursed to the end of my days. She did not succeed in her attempt to wipe out my family with mosqito poison, but I contemplate often about the curses and their impact on me and the boys.

After over a decade of trying to find spirituality, career success and marital bliss, I thought it would be a good idea to pursue happiness without her, by seeking financial freedom and young women as a single dad, rather than persist in a household full of hate, resentment and child abuse. My thinking was that I would be a better dad if I truly pursued my dreams, than to stay bound to a woman who hated me, and everything about me, yet would not let go as she relished controlling what she hated. My thinking was that with the money we were about to make, she could take half, and go find happiness - as she clearly wasn't happy with me. I thought wrong. Happiness was not her thing. Controlling her world was. She found satisfaction in owning what she hated, and she hated a lot

Bernard P

The story of Bernard P. Is almost identical. After his divorce, he noted in his two boys 8 and 9 years behavior strange, a desire to conceal that they did not have before. They admit him while their mother frequent Shri Ram Chandra, a telling portrait of the guru throne at home. The father was informed, worried. Children him announce later that they must participate in a seminar group at Castle Augerans near Dole, in August 1999. Bernard P. Appealed to the judge in family matters to get custody of her children, or at least to prevent mother to be taken to the sect. The judge granted a ban on leaving the country, but considers that there is no urgency to change custody.

"The legal system is sufficient," says Philippe Lefant, Bar Chambury, which specializes in such cases, if the child is in danger, that is in permanent contact with the sect. It is possible to request the revocation of parental authority of a spouse wrongdoing before the high court. Otherwise, we may ask that the child whose follower has custody is not involved in its religious affairs. You can also obtain referral to the judge in family matters to redirect their education. But it is a decision unsatisfactory because extremely difficult to control: one can hardly do so by a bailiff, and it is valid only if the person referred is not prevented. Otherwise, it is easy to conceal everything. Almost always, I ask the prohibition on leaving the country for children when the sect has a registered office abroad. And I get regularly. "

The problem lies more in the attitude of judges. "The actions of this type are confronted with the fundamental principle of freedom of belief," says Philippe Lefant. Often my exercise restraint that my clients do not understand, just to emphasize that the child rather than the ideological aspect of the problem. "Justice can intervene only if health, the safety, morals or the education of the child are compromised, "says the chairman of the juvenile court of Versailles.

That leaves room for many inconsistencies. Thus, in 1993, a father divorced had obtained the withdrawal of custody of her children to the mother because she attended the Jehovah's Witnesses. "The practice of a sect particularly pregnante can only have an impact on the behavior of young children and thwart their free will," the court felt.

By contrast, that same year, Aim Lafarge, in the same situation, was dismissed by the court in Narbonne on the grounds that this would "allow individuals acting alone qualify sect any minority group within a religion or" a philosophy. This would lead to totalitarianism threatening the freedom of conscience of a minority. "

Don

Thanks for your comment... Since you don't know, you should not speak to that issue and stick to what you know...

We had lived together for 35 years and had forgiven one another all that time for our daily mistakes.

And we did all that for 35 years without being "Christians". Forgiveness was our strength. The LOVE was taken out of the relationship by Sahaj Marg so that "Forgiveness" was not possible anymore for the one caught in the CULT. That scheming was done by preceptors and other abhyasis and was not there before, and is not "by accident" but "by design". Read of others in Europe and in North America. We wanted to UNITE the world, not DIVIDE our families in the name of yet another RELIGION to a MALE GOD with OBEDIENCE as the LAW!!

To new abhyasis: Beware of "seminars" in other towns that become schemes and conspiracies to get the single abhyasis "together". Seminars are "match making events". Women with men, men with women... That is only one of the schemes that break up families. And watch your CHILDREN, the new target of SRCM(tm). These structures will attract all sorts of DEVIANTS and as other POWER structures, will create DEVIANTS!!

Then there is the MONEY!! SRCM targeted older women and "mental health" therapists (Psy's) at first and now is focussed on, and attracts the nationalist children of the wealthy who immigrate to our countries to attend university or to work, for fill their "organizational" positions and sucks more money out of our POOR families than those families can afford. Like all other "Pyramids" it attracts the gullible disempowered dreaming of, and wanting more POWER, and the "opportunists" who use the PYRAMID to increase their own POWER. Does the POWER TRICKLE DOWN as the theory claims? IT DIVIDES that is sure...inside and outside!!

IT AIN'T SPIRITUALITY but RELIGION and CULT..by their own criteria!!

To say that NOW, in our family, we have a "difference" is accurate, but that difference was created and cultivated by a NEW RELIGION or a Personality CULT of Businessmen that re-directs that LOVE that should remain in the family and among the members of that family. That LOVE was to go to "one another" and it was "STOLEN" as by a thief, and re-directed to the MASTER and the MISSION and the METHOD. There is a "METHOD" to this MADNESS that DIVIDES where ever it GOES...

Chari could before his death, encourage (or order) all his "DIVIDED" flock to UNITE with their FAMILIES!! But that would be SAINTLY and he ain't THAT!!

We have witnessed the same process in those families where one member (usually the woman) is ensnared in other religions or cults and the other partner (usually the man), does not "BELIEVE" in the "SCAM"...The Religion/Cult empowers and uses the FEMALE and divides the family. Look at the aboriginal population and Christianity. That population (the men) is now returning to their traditional "SPIRITUALITY" and still, the churches on the reserves are attended by a few old WOMEN. That Church still is in charge of the "many burials" that take place among the youth of our NATIVE communities.

IF gullible, naive or "disempowered" women did not "do the dirty work", or as Chari says and encourages in one of his books (to), "sell themselves" to those "RELIGIONS", they would not thrive.

Come on WOMEN, get up off your KNEES and support your families and your own SPIRITUALITY, not the RELIGIOUS and SPIRITUAL SCAMS of STRANGERS!!

WE are all tucked inside the ONE (God) where we LIVE!!

Chari, at his death, will have his "orgy" of EGO at his funeral...

Who will celebrate at the family funerals of the HUMBLE ONES HE DIVIDED? IS there not a KARMIC debt here? Will Sahaj Marg erase those SAMSKARAS... I think LIFE is JUST. That KARMA could be realized on VENUS, no doubt, which is where Chari thinks he is going after this LIFE!! Venus is a good place for those who are caught in an illusion. The Egyptians of 3 millenia ago would have gone to the SUN at least.

Babuji's stolen ring (with 9 planets arranged in 3 rows of 3) will not save him as without PLUTO, there are only 8 planets in our SOLAR system and that is the correct symetry. 4 planets of gas and 4 planets of crystal for an OCTAVE of consciousness so as to be free from the illusory attraction of our GALAXY and to go further than VENUS at the very least...

MAYBE BABUJI is wise after all...

4d-Don

Thierry

Thierry is a SRCM apologist, by his own testimonial, he got divorced due to Sahaj Marg, was rejected by his own parents, siblings and his own son, only because of Sahaj Marg. Here i would like to explain that Sahaj Marg transmission is an addiction like any drug addiction such as alcohol, cocaine and alike, like people who are slave to these addiction are rejected by society similarly people addicted to Sahaj Marg transmission are also rejected by society Thierry is one such example, who has been rejected socially for being part of poisonous sahaj marg.

hello to all

I allow myself to bring a comment to this very instructive exchange

I practice the spiritual path proposed in Sahaj marg for the past 20 years and I am very satisfied with my practice and the srcm(.) I think that the the problems of comprehension that we encounter is due to several fundamental differences(.)

I at the beginning of my practice encountered enormous difficulties of freedom of worship(.) For example in Sahaj marg(,) even if it is not a prerequisite(,) it is strongly recommended not to drink alcohol and become vegetarian(.) when I was at my parents (home) I always had at my plate(,) a steak and a glass of wine served with my father telling me(,) I quote(:) "you're not a man(,) you do not drink" (.)

I had to fight for many years to make them admit that my choice of lifestyle was different and until the death of my father, he always dismissed me(.) if I resisted to not cut myself from my family it is out of duty and love for them(.)

my sisters and brothers have also criticized me several times and when I took the floor (spoke) they said that it was not coming from me(.) I also resisted cutting them off through tolerance(.)

It is well known that minorities frighten (people) because by not reacting in certain situations and behaviors like most people(,) the way we do (things) may seem odd(,) for example no longer taking pleasure in drinking alcohol "may surprise"(.)

it is certain that early in my practice I have certainly been too expressive in externalizing how I felt(.) I'm more internalized and seldom share the happiness and balance that meditation lavishes(.)

I was married for 10 years to someone who has never practiced meditation(.) (The) fear of her family before my differences forced me to divorce with a son who is a supporter of the srcm but does not want to meditate(.) It is his choice(,) having been mistreated myself because of my spiritual path(,) I leave him chose without interfering with his freedom of worship(.)

I was next cohabiting with a woman who practiced meditation with me for 2 years and then spent the remaining 5 years of our communal life criticizing me me and my spiritual master(.) I do not obliged her to follow me but I just asked for my freedom of worship(.) I also had to separate myself from her as the pressure from her became unbearable(.) I had(,) so as to please her(,) taken up eating meat again(,) in my attempt to not appear too "bizarre"(.)

Meditation regulates the mind and life seems so beautiful that of course it may seem strange to be happy(.)

I'm so so happy(,) so content in my skin(.) I live moments that are so intense and it is thanks to meditation(.) Our practice of meditation is designed to make us change our evolution and allows us to discover a new perception of the world (inside and outside) I allow myself this counsel ... leave us meditate(.) Do not criticize us in our practice(.) Accept us as we accept you(.)

Let us love one other with our differences(.) do not try and impose on us your choice and if some practitioners want to force you to become members(,) have them read this message(.) let us all leave one another our freedom to worship or not to worship(.) if people do not want meditate(,) it is their life choices and this must be respected(.)

Meditation is so subtle that the accession of the person must be voluntary or else it does not work(.)

thank you for taking the time to read me

thierry