tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.comments2022-12-28T22:34:36.419+05:30The Cult of Sahaj Marg ( Shree Ram Chandra Mission)Shashwathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00964293138258874968noreply@blogger.comBlogger420125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-62769618733737346432012-06-13T11:29:54.517+05:302012-06-13T11:29:54.517+05:30I pity you. Run away don't look back . Save yo...I pity you. Run away don't look back . Save your soul.rageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01296457144624482289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-39052529560662528952012-06-13T11:27:17.522+05:302012-06-13T11:27:17.522+05:30I totally understand you dear. Your questions will...I totally understand you dear. Your questions will never be answered as all the abhyasis are insane . They have no rational thoughts . Stay away from this cult. Take a diff path in life . Appreciate life and people. Teach your dad by your actions.rageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01296457144624482289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-27035288292482701472012-06-13T11:22:10.949+05:302012-06-13T11:22:10.949+05:30I support you friend. This is a cult. I couldn'...I support you friend. This is a cult. I couldn't bear it for more than 3 months. My sisters life is ruined as my bil is a zombie.rageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01296457144624482289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-68296189014788305552012-05-06T15:43:59.448+05:302012-05-06T15:43:59.448+05:30Yes Mr.Senthil kumar. You sound like a proper abhy...Yes Mr.Senthil kumar. You sound like a proper abhyasi. I have proper proof. The life of my sister spoilt by this stupid system and a senseless abhyasi - my brother-in-law. A living example of a sahaj marg zombie. Beware..run away..save your life.rageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01296457144624482289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-78451141389024194052012-05-02T23:38:04.071+05:302012-05-02T23:38:04.071+05:30I too attended a great banquets hosted by a gracio...I too attended a great banquets hosted by a gracious men in the name of spirituality. There were flower decorations and wonderful food. We ate what we pleased without any want for money. While being wooed by the hosts grace, it was requested only that we offer our undying faith and unquestioning trust in him. In exchange he would ultimately lead the way to a far off land of endless banquets. <br /><br />Confused as to what this had to do with spirituality, I humbly returned to the forest and resumed my journey without regrets or sorrow. My faith in my forever existing One-ness with Creation is all I need on this journey full of wonder and mystery.<br /><br /><br /><br />Monkey ManMonkey Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02505643286571723432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-16202321278078276552012-04-09T23:57:58.336+05:302012-04-09T23:57:58.336+05:30Hi Shashwat,
There is a minor correction needed i...Hi Shashwat,<br /><br />There is a minor correction needed in pt 8 which states "P.C Chaturvedi who was chairman of the committee which appointed Umesh Chandra Saxena as president of SRCM is father of Kasturi Chaturvedi"<br /><br />Shri P.C. Chaturvedi wasn't the father of Kasturi Chaturvedi. Her father's name is "Shri Ram Das Chaturvedi" who was also fondly called as "Chaubey Ji" by Pujya Babuji Maharaj.Anjaana Rahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06193685350000224970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-55318335387502626052012-04-07T00:58:09.071+05:302012-04-07T00:58:09.071+05:30Hi Shashwat,
I have gone through your blogs and i...Hi Shashwat,<br /><br />I have gone through your blogs and i am in a fix whether to feel good about it or feel sad. I feel good because you have put in loads of efforts to bring out the facts and given everyone a fair picture to decide for themselves. However at the same time i feel sad to see people saying not very pleasant things about Babuji and his Sahaj Marg. <br /><br />I can proudly say that i am one of those very lucky person who has seen Babuji and have attended Basant when it was celebrated at Shahjahanpur. It was a sight to behold. People were never asked or forced for any kind of money and whatever people gave was out of love. The food that we ate was the most simple but there was so much of love and brotherhood every where. It was 3 days of bliss. My father who has been with the mission since 1962 has spent a great deal of his time with Babuji and mission. All my life i have just known and remembered Babuji and would be doing it for the rest of my life and this is entirely not because somebody is making me do it but because of my faith in him. I have felt his grace, his blessings and i can still remember his face sitting on the stage infront of the garden inside the Shahjahanpur Ashram just outside the meditation hall and his feet when i touched them at Lucknow and Shahjahanpur.<br /><br />I am not here to refute any of your posts or have any kind of arguments. I just wanted to share my thoughts and possibly state a point that why do we waste our energy in worrying about anything that has any material aspects attached to it when we can simply remember our goal and continue with the meditation. I wish most of us can understand this simple truth and also benefit from it. If not anything then just Who is Babuji(Shri Ram Chandra) and his mission/Sankalp.Anjaana Rahihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06193685350000224970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-87962146582721492762012-03-21T01:36:05.918+05:302012-03-21T01:36:05.918+05:30u know i personally met that stupid chari coz my d...u know i personally met that stupid chari coz my dad is a firm believer.. n he did not even smile.i met him few yesrs back.he has no sense of humility to others..my dad is so much influenced by him that he calls me masters daughter which i personally hate coz i was born on same date as his.. i loath chari.prakritihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12390275792623696545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-65182771766030830492012-03-21T01:30:43.314+05:302012-03-21T01:30:43.314+05:30i hate this stupid system and its fanatisicm..and ...i hate this stupid system and its fanatisicm..and chari is definitely a psychopath.prakritihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12390275792623696545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-21206151916288986052012-03-21T01:27:43.220+05:302012-03-21T01:27:43.220+05:30respected sir,
my name is Prakriti Jauhar. I am a...respected sir, <br />my name is Prakriti Jauhar. I am a doctor.I am 23 years old. I reside in jalandhar. My father Col. K.P.Jauhar has been a follower of your mission since a really long time. He is a retired army officer.He is a preceptor too. I am not a very firm believer of your organisation although i respect the preachings of Swami vivekananda a lot while my father is not just a firm believer but a fanatic of your organisation. I wanted to ask you simple questions.This is not in context of going against my father. I obviously love him and respect him a lot. But his attitude makes me doubt towars the preachings of the master whosoever is right now (again no disrespect intended cause i know very little of your organisation). questions are as follows-<br /><br />1) does your organisation teach the preceptors to abuse their wives and their children? if yes why? and if no then what is the criteria of selection for the preceptors?<br /><br />2) does your institution teach the people how to abuse their elders? ( here my maternal grandparents are concerned.)<br /><br />3) does your institution teach how to point out the failures in other people's life? (concerns me cause once i could not do well in a subject and flunked an exam but i tried again without my fathers support cause of the constant nagging he did till my second attempt and then topped the exam)<br /><br />4) does your institution teach how to demean people who are less fortunate and poorer or of low caste than you are.(concerning the people who work at our place)<br /><br />5) does your institution instill how to demean/ disrespect people who worship god and their methods of praying.( concerning my mother who has to listen to my father who keeps saying that whatever her methods are for praying to God are worthless but still she keeps quite cause she wants peace at home)<br /><br />If answers to any of my above questions is true then i would like to protest against your institution, and if no then i would like you to speak to my father directly about these concerns cause no matter how much meditation you people do there is no effect on him atleast and i do not think he is fit enough to preach meditation methods to others..<br /> <br />Thanking you,<br />your's faithfullyprakritihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12390275792623696545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-21828392553735130602012-03-07T19:49:11.386+05:302012-03-07T19:49:11.386+05:30Well Mr.Shaswat,
One point to be clear is that on...Well Mr.Shaswat,<br /> One point to be clear is that one odd man in any system doesnt mean that the system itself is wrong. It simply means just becuase of the idiot politics in India doesnt mean that India is bad country ! please understand the reall meaning of Sahaj Marg and then comment.MNMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12218194457556706886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-72523350536816732352012-01-31T10:21:21.683+05:302012-01-31T10:21:21.683+05:30When I met kasturi behn in 1995 she did not talk o...When I met kasturi behn in 1995 she did not talk of Chariji as a manger. I was with her for 3 full days, and to all abhyasis she said follow your master, and not me. To me in a very personal conversation she said that for you Chariji is a master, but you forget that for me he is a fellow abhyasi under Babuji. she implied her equality in status with Chariji, and there was a underlying tinge of competitiveness in her. But after your interview you have justified her change of stand by saying she changed her version, because Chariji has changed . how illogical.<br />Mr. Debashis is a free agent. It is ridicules that he is addicted to transmission. Trans mission is the personal right of Chariji, it is like respect, which cannot be purchased, has to be earned. Every socirty has its own rules of respect, and there is nothing you can do about. Joining the Sahaj marg is voluntary. I cannot force it on my own children, unlike religion where you are born to it. What do you know about Hinduism, and its many dimensions, its greatness, and its vileness(the four varnas)-if you are born a scheduled caste in remote village, and been a victim of it you will not praise Hinduism. Then where will go for detoxing yourself out of it. It is exaggerated sense of self importance that makes you write these blogs, which are laughable, for any sane person.latha mohandosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714173238775962904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-31694504735236347022012-01-29T14:51:23.132+05:302012-01-29T14:51:23.132+05:30Hi,
We all create our own reality 100% through our...Hi,<br />We all create our own reality 100% through our perception. Our beliefs play a major part influence on what we perceive. Therefore, we all need to look at ourselves as to what are we doing, why are we feeling the way we are feeling. Criticising or praising others is only a camouflage we use to avoid facing ourselves.<br />Lets stay close to ourselves!<br />Ashmuthajainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12504095475960631462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-9915405924070089242011-10-14T16:28:21.194+05:302011-10-14T16:28:21.194+05:30All above is BULL SHIT.
Do you people know about ...All above is BULL SHIT.<br /><br />Do you people know about SRCM.?<br />Do you ever stayed in their Ashrams.?<br />Do You practiced what they thought and how to meditate.?<br /><br />I had been in touch with SRCM from 25 years, as my parents <br />Were following them since before my birth.<br /><br />Initially<br />@ unlike others, SRCM doesn't Charge money for<br />The meditations they offer..!<br />@ they charge for books you buy and charges for the<br />Minimum expenses of stay during the functions held<br />Within SRCM.<br />@ they provide free food all the abhyasis.!<br />@ they charge you only if you buy some thing from their<br />Stores and cafeteria..!<br />@ no registration fee..<br />@ no fee to stay within Ashrams..<br /><br />There is nothing you are going to pay except for<br />Which you buy for your interest .!<br /><br />Nobody forces you to buy or pay bucks to the ashram..!<br /><br />Since no money is involved where from you get<br />The chance of calling it a SCAM..!?<br /><br />The money they have is from personal donations<br />Those are submitted in your own interest.<br /><br />Nobody asks you to give donations...<br /><br />So many big people are practicing Sahaj Marg who are<br />literally financially sound... They don't need to ask anybody..!<br /><br />Coming to the Marriages done in SRCM..<br /> The marriages are conducted by SRCM only for those<br />Who approach them to select a partner for them from the ashram <br />because they believe the practicing partners.<br /> They will give you details of some suitable persons and asks<br />for your response. Only after your approval, you will be married to your partner.<br /> That's your choice but not of SRCM.<br /><br />So don't even Dare to blame SRCM..!<br /><br />First of all know about then before you speak or post anything.<br /><br />I am a graduate student in USA.. And still believe and<br />follow SRCM because I Know What They Are..!<br /><br />I won't be anonymous ..<br /><br />- shiva ramakrishna anthati,<br /> B.E, M.S Engineering Management,<br /> CSUEB, Hayward, CA, USA.<br /> shivu.srcm@gmail.com<br /> 001- 510 402 3467Shivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733728557957868931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-74576462221065170492011-10-06T06:35:48.786+05:302011-10-06T06:35:48.786+05:30Hi,
Sant Mat lineage web site may be found at
htt...Hi,<br />Sant Mat lineage web site may be found at<br /><br />http://radhasoamis.freeyellow.com/index.html<br /><br />It is very negative on sant mat (surat shabda yoga). Except for the original Agra lineage,<br />they are all usurpers. Even with written registered wills others claimed successorship<br />from back room meetings, or just realizing out<br />of thin air they were masters.<br /><br />I was initiated by Ram Chandra before he died<br />by a top Indian Rep and reinitiated afterwards.<br />I am also initiated in very many groups including many sant mat.<br /><br />Curious whom Lalaji was initiated by since you<br />mention sant mat. Was it a Radhasoami Guru ?<br /><br />In all my time meditating with sahaj marg I<br />have never experienced anything. And, a few high powered reps were giving sittings.<br /><br />My buring question is this. What are you<br />supposed to see, or hear inside in the inner planes in sahaj marg? It was always very nebulous to me.<br /><br />Of all the thousands of sant mat people I have<br />met almost none of them have 'gone inside'.<br /><br />Do you fly around in astral and causal planes ?mike williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03595744326166358765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-76248710822381287612011-07-01T14:14:47.867+05:302011-07-01T14:14:47.867+05:30Without having proper information and data dont co...Without having proper information and data dont comment like an illetrate men..........Senthil kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062787328296804731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-12074984277361120032011-06-22T10:04:32.384+05:302011-06-22T10:04:32.384+05:30can u elaborate more on this? what kind of illegal...can u elaborate more on this? what kind of illegal activities she is in?Shashwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964293138258874968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-61783679073309622492011-06-21T05:44:25.179+05:302011-06-21T05:44:25.179+05:30Well done Shaswat. Keep up the good work. I had be...Well done Shaswat. Keep up the good work. I had been to Lucknow many times and I came in touch with this Kasturi. Later I came to know about her, she too was involved in illegal and sexual activities. Wish I would have known earlier...I missed the chance ;) Everyone is cult. Even babuji's elder son saxena...he is silent cult. He had bad eye on my sister. Anyway we all are human, we all have dark sides....I too have and I am sure you too will have. Cheers !Paresh Tiwarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11493481463756540103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-14282395422499560622011-04-21T05:17:12.370+05:302011-04-21T05:17:12.370+05:301) Is that transmission of 3 sittings true? Or jus...1) Is that transmission of 3 sittings true? Or just rekhi technigue to capture one's mind?<br /><br /><b>its all in the mind, if you think you are getting something, if you are good at imaginations and if you are prone to suggestions then you are indeed receiving some thoughts from your preceptor, this is not unique to anyone, and it has nothing to do with sahaj marg, this is a natural phenomena which happens all the time. </b><br /> <br />2)Really one can achive spiritual in this?<br /><b> no absolutely not, the self appointed master of this cult himself has not achieved anything let alone spirituality, they are still fighting court cases, force people out of their home, grab properties and what not, there is no spirituality in this path. </b><br /><br />3)Who object IDOL WORKSHIP?<br />a)Lalaji<br />b)Babuji<br />c)Chari<br /><br /><b>All of them practice idol worship, they have idol of their masters and all the abhyasis put flower and other stuffs in front of those idol.<br /><br />Sahaj marg as a concept is a contradiction in terms, Chari will say he opposes idol worship immediately after putting a garland around an idol of babuji. this is stupidity at best.</b>Shashwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964293138258874968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-91086981644165934662011-04-21T05:07:38.292+05:302011-04-21T05:07:38.292+05:30Yes i do, but its good to have a discussion on the...Yes i do, but its good to have a discussion on the latest topic of the blog for better visibility.Shashwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964293138258874968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-31226539225348238152011-04-21T04:54:29.531+05:302011-04-21T04:54:29.531+05:30Hi Sashwath,
I want to clarify some points regard...Hi Sashwath,<br /><br />I want to clarify some points regarding SRCM, are you still watching this blog?<br /><br />Thankspalimarpaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501301456736546775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-58223362742150436352011-04-15T16:08:17.158+05:302011-04-15T16:08:17.158+05:30Hi Shashwat,
Thanks for the articles. I have read...Hi Shashwat,<br /><br />Thanks for the articles. I have read most of all article. Could you please let me know some points mentioend below.<br /><br />1) Is that transmission of 3 sittings true? Or just rekhi technigue to capture one's mind?<br />2)Really one can achive spiritual in this?<br />3)Who object IDOL WORKSHIP?<br /> a)Lalaji<br /> b)Babuji<br /> c)Chari<br /><br />-Thanks<br /> R Paipalimarpaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501301456736546775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-4520811540318947462011-01-10T09:59:42.291+05:302011-01-10T09:59:42.291+05:30meditation in any form is not bad, if you sit quie...meditation in any form is not bad, if you sit quietly that is also meditation, there are thousands of ways described in hindu text, and all are good except those which claim exclusivity and worst are those who claim to have registered a trade-mark.<br /><br />I have had a long discussion with kasturi and same is posted in youtube, you can listen to it and make opinion of your own. I found her somewhat frustrated for some reason.Shashwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964293138258874968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-13649508700171435692011-01-08T05:30:43.071+05:302011-01-08T05:30:43.071+05:30Shashat,
What is your opinion of the meditation p...Shashat,<br /><br />What is your opinion of the meditation practice, in and of itself, without any involvement in the organization? <br /><br />Also, what's your take on the other branches of Sahaj Marg - those not associated with Chari such as the practioners connected to Sister Kasturi, for example?<br /><br />Thank you!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12805630911809472760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38502554.post-41645546395112965112010-12-31T13:53:46.829+05:302010-12-31T13:53:46.829+05:30you are carrying a dead body on your shoulders, yo...you are carrying a dead body on your shoulders, you have only shifted the weight of the dead body from one shoulder to another, this have given you a temporary relief, but over a period of time your other shoulder will feel same pain as the first one did.<br /><br />Get out of this cult, and become free of this bondage.Shashwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964293138258874968noreply@blogger.com