Concept of sahaj marg is fundamentally wrong. It is not a spiritual or religious system, but outcome of hallucination. Ignoring the acts of criminal minded P. rajagopalachari and his bete noire Navneet, Kasturi and K.C Naryana, if we try and analyze concept of sahaj marg itself we can come to a conclusion that it is just a business like any other business group, aim is to make money, please keep in mind we do not have unselfish people nowadays.
Before we move into analysis of sahaj marg, we must observe the outcome of sahaj marg which is present currently, I am not going to attempt to demonstrate any psychic phenomena from a scientific basis, because it will require a great deal of preparation for both the presenter as well as audience, therefore i will not demonstrate sahaj marg directly but we will demonstrate the outcome of teachings of sahaj marg which in turn will explain sahaj marg in detail.
If we have to give an psychic explanation of sahaj marg, it will require the subjective and the objective side. In case of sahaj marg we have subjective side (transmission) but the objective side is missing... (where does it lead to???)
To make this point more clear, as why sahaj marg is rotten, Take example of chemistry and physics, with which we are so familiar, and of which we have read so much, is it true that everyone in this world is able to understand the demonstration even of the commonest subjects? Take any boor and show him one of your experiments. What will he understand of it? Nothing. It requires a good deal of previous training to be brought up to the point of understanding an experiment. Before that he cannot understand it at all. That is a area difficulty in the way. If scientific demonstration mean bringing down certain facts to a plane which is universe for all human beings, where all beings can understand it I doubt that there can be any such scientific demonstration for any subject in the world. So, on the face of it, it is absurd if this be the meaning of scientific demonstration, the bringing down of intricate facts to the plane on which we are now.
The next approach should be the correct one, perhaps, that certain facts should be adduced as proving certain more intricate facts. There are certain more complicated intricate phenomena, which we explain by less intricate ones, and thus get, perhaps, nearer to them; in this way they are gradually brought down to the plane of our present ordinary consciousness.
Therefore choosing the second option, lets try and bring down sahaj marg to our plan and understand it, first step is to observe the immediate outcome of sahaj marg which is present in our own time, currently, right now, we will not go into past, nor we intend to predict the future, we will observe the ground reality which is present currently.
After Ram Chandra expired in 1983, battle for ownership started, this in itself demonstrates that Ram Chandra was not an enlighten person nor was he a person who could enable people become more subtle and loving, because if this was the case, people who were very close to him would not have become lusty and power hungry.
There are at-least 5 branches of sahaj marg started by Ram Chandra (aka babuji). We will not consider off-shoots of lalaji because it has been established before that lalaji has nothing to do with sahaj marg. ( see here .)
Five people representing sahaj marg currently are:-
1. Navneet Saxena (http://www.babujimemorial.org)
2. K. C Narayana (http://www.sriramchandra.org/)
3. Kasturi Chaturvedi (http://kasturibhenji.blogspot.com/) as in case of other cult’s she is also scared of criticism hence their blog is blocked
4. Raghvendra Rao (http://makamsureshkumar.blogspot.com/)
5. P Rajagopalachari (http://www.srcm.org)
Therefore first outcome of sahaj marg which is evident by the fact presented above, and which we can easily understand using common sense is "division". Sahaj Marg is divisive, we can safely conclude from this, that anyone who is going to get involve in sahaj marg will eventually become like the people above, who cannot stay together with their group or society, and will branch out claiming themselves to be the rightful owner of sahaj marg.
The second outcome of sahaj marg which is visible is "greed" which always results in "violence", "manipulation" and "cunning approach", example is capture of various properties and hostile takeovers of one group over other, this is also a sahaj marg outcome (see here). There is no denying fact that P. Rajagopalachari was associated with Babuji, and from the letters written by Babuji himself it is evident that Chari was close to him as well, now looking at the behavior and acts of P. Rajagopalachari, we can safely conclude what type of teachings he has gone through and what has made him the kind of person he is today, its SAHAJ MARG, P. Rajagopalachari not only claims himself to represent sahaj marg, but also claims that babuji appointed him as his successor, and all he is doing is propagating the teachings of babuji. Therefore "greed", "violence", "manipulation" and "cunningness" forms the character of sahaj marg, and are integral part of this concept.
Third outcome of sahaj marg is "divorces", this in turn destabilizes the society and makes sahaj marg an anti-social and harmful cult (see here). Sahaj Marg as a concept is directly responsible for all the divorces happened inside this cult, because it teaches that "Master" is most important person in life of its victim, no method is defined in sahaj marg for roll-back process, sahaj marg explains only how one can join it, (three sitting with a lusty preceptor) there is no process defined on how to un-join sahaj marg, this one way approach is what is responsible for divorces.
Fourth outcome of sahaj marg is suicidal tendencies, (see here) and statement from one of the representative of Babuji
And I pray to you, beloved Master, to grant us this privilege of rejoining you in the brighter world as soon as possible
Note:-Only dead people live in "brighter world"
We do not intend to discuss all the googblygoody talks about sahaj marg, that it has to be felt, and there is some kind of transmission happening in there, and if you imagine smoke going out from you back you are actually elevating spiritually, because there is no evidence nor any logical proof nor there is any attempt from srcm to explain these claims by explaining certain lower aspects which can be explained and understood, which in turn would testify for something higher if there is anything of that sort, for example imagining smoke going out from your back side, how anyone can become spiritual? there is no answer to this, neither there is any attempt from those propagating it to explain it, therefore we have the liberty to accept that, which is visible and is evident. Now what we have understood, clearly demonstrates and points out, that sahaj marg is not a spiritual practice but a mind controlling, brainwashing cult (the concept itself), which is divisive, harmful, induces suicidal tendencies, instigates divorces, induces hallucination and reduces capacity of rational thinking, negates positive human growth, and suppress natural spiritual quest. (no particular group but the concept itself).
This confirms that sahaj marg is not spiritual or religious group but is a harmful cult similar to jim jhones Peoples temple or AA kind of a thing.
These are the basic characteristic of sahaj marg, and any group which claims to teach sahaj marg is basically propagating qualities explained, these are part of sahaj marg, and any group claiming to teach anything other then this, is not teaching sahaj marg but something else.
Have a look at all these glaring realities about sahaj marg and instead of trying to squeeze oil from stone, become normal and get rid of sahaj marg and help others also to get rid of this disease.
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Obedience and intelligence
A person obeys another person because he is influenced by a stronger power, whether it being wealth, intellect, experience, or a higher position. Human beings have been obeying and disobeying since the beginning. They have been thought that obedience is a virtue and disobedience a vice, but this is not true all the time. The person obeying authority must be able to recognize irrational and rational authority, because not being able to do so can become dangerous. When people become a part of a cult or a gang it is usually at a vulnerable time when they are recruited and they were not able to recognize signs needed to make a rational decision. These people become followers to leaders with narcissistic personalities who believe they are some sort of messiah that will make the world a better place.
Obedience is simple, obedience needs no intelligence, all machines are obedient, there is nothing like an disobedient machine, intelligence is human, if anyone is asking for a complete obedience, that person in essence is asking you to become a machine, which s/he can use for his own selfish motive. When a person is obedient, he thinks he is not responsible for the act, take the case of Nazi’s after the second world war, in the Nuremberg trials, all the Adolf Hitler’s top men simply said they were not responsible, they were simply following orders and don’t feel guilty of the crimes they committed, this is what sahaj marg intends to do with its victim, make them machines, and make them commit crime against humanity, and make them feel, they are not responsible, however no court of law, which is based on reasoning will accept their argument and it is them who will be punished, as a reference take the case of Ikuo Hayashi. A perfect example of human converted into an obedient machine by a claimed spiritual guru.
Obedience has a simplicity, disobedience needs a higher order of intelligence, any idiot can be obedient, infect only idiots can be obedient. The person of intelligence is bound to ask WHY? – “Why am I suppose to do it?” and “unless I know the reason and consequence of it, I am not going to involve in it!” An intelligent person is responsible.
Intelligence is directly proportional to responsibility.
Responsibility is not a game, it is one of the most authentic ways of living, , but it does not mean disobedience for the sake of disobedience, that would be idiotic too, we must use our own intelligence, and when we use our own intelligence we are responsible and grow mature, and hence even though we accept opinion of others but we have agreed to the opinion and that is not obedience but responsibility.
Just to go against obedience is not going to move intelligence higher; it remains on the same plane. Disobedience does not mean saying an absolute no in every situation, it simply means deciding whether to do it or not, and it is defiantly not the question of hating the person seeking obedience or hating to be told what to do, it is just being responsible.
The way of disobedience is not stagnant, just going against every order and feeling anger and hate and revenge towards the person. The way of disobedience is a way of great inteliigence. So it is not ultimately obedience or disobedience. Reduce the basic facts, its simply a question of intelligence—behave intelligently.
It is easy to throw responsibility, If Adolf Hitler had been victorious, Martin Heidegger would have said, he is victorious because he followed my philosophy, Martin Heidegger was a great intellectual as compared to Hitler, Hitler was just a retarded person, but powerful and we follow the powerful. We are brought up to follow the powerful, the teacher, the priest, the God, essentially whoever has the power is right. “might is right” and you have to follow it, it is simple because it needs no intelligence.
Now there are few questions here, can a totally obedient person be intelligent? From the points presented above, certainly not, and here comes the next question, answer to which will be a nail in the coffin of Sahaj Marg.
Can an idiot realize the ultimate and lead others to the path to the ultimate? And answer is certainly NO.
So as I have said time and again, people in sahaj marg are idiots because they have lost the power to use their intelligence as they have become absolutly obedient, hence they cannot utilize their own wisdom and realize what is known as ultimate truth, to realize the truth we must be intelligent enough. And an intelligent person cannot be part of sahaj marg. Sahaj marg and intelligence are anonyms of each other. Sahaj Marg is path of foolishness and only foolish people follow it. Those who disagree are welcome to prove otherwise.
This is what Sahaj Marg is all about
http://www.sahajmarg.org/smrti/education/publications/salfeatures/series4/obedience/obedience2.html
It is of course necessary that a disciple obeys the Master implicitly. The great Indian mystic Kabir is stated to have said that while a disciple should not take alcoholic drinks, nevertheless, if the Master orders a disciple to drink, the disciple should not merely drink but should drown himself in a vat of wine so that the liquor should pour into him through every pore of the body. This emphasises the degree of obedience that is called for. By obedience and by following the Master's guidance, not only in spiritual sadhana but in all aspects of one's life, one comes to realise that the Master is not just a Master of one's spiritual life but is an all-pervasive Master with franchise over the sum total of one's human functions. The development of this attitude strengthens one's attachment to the Master and begins to develop in the disciple a feeling of total dependence on the Master.
Parthsarthi Rajagopalachari is a fake guru who is in a habit of fooling people by taking name of some well known mystique's as in above case, he has used the name of Kabir and has given a wage example for obedience for himself, Kabir on the other hand has never made any such comment, on the contrary Kabir is said to have two guru's The thesis that he had two gurus, Ramanand and Shekh Taqqi, provides an optimism that he was not prone to any one orthodox set of beliefs
Parthsarthi in essence is a fake guru, and uses names of enlighten mystique's of past to substantiate his position as a Guru. Is there anything more worst then this?
This is what Sahaj Marg is. Obedience to a Psychopath.
Obedience is simple, obedience needs no intelligence, all machines are obedient, there is nothing like an disobedient machine, intelligence is human, if anyone is asking for a complete obedience, that person in essence is asking you to become a machine, which s/he can use for his own selfish motive. When a person is obedient, he thinks he is not responsible for the act, take the case of Nazi’s after the second world war, in the Nuremberg trials, all the Adolf Hitler’s top men simply said they were not responsible, they were simply following orders and don’t feel guilty of the crimes they committed, this is what sahaj marg intends to do with its victim, make them machines, and make them commit crime against humanity, and make them feel, they are not responsible, however no court of law, which is based on reasoning will accept their argument and it is them who will be punished, as a reference take the case of Ikuo Hayashi. A perfect example of human converted into an obedient machine by a claimed spiritual guru.
Obedience has a simplicity, disobedience needs a higher order of intelligence, any idiot can be obedient, infect only idiots can be obedient. The person of intelligence is bound to ask WHY? – “Why am I suppose to do it?” and “unless I know the reason and consequence of it, I am not going to involve in it!” An intelligent person is responsible.
Intelligence is directly proportional to responsibility.
Responsibility is not a game, it is one of the most authentic ways of living, , but it does not mean disobedience for the sake of disobedience, that would be idiotic too, we must use our own intelligence, and when we use our own intelligence we are responsible and grow mature, and hence even though we accept opinion of others but we have agreed to the opinion and that is not obedience but responsibility.
Just to go against obedience is not going to move intelligence higher; it remains on the same plane. Disobedience does not mean saying an absolute no in every situation, it simply means deciding whether to do it or not, and it is defiantly not the question of hating the person seeking obedience or hating to be told what to do, it is just being responsible.
The way of disobedience is not stagnant, just going against every order and feeling anger and hate and revenge towards the person. The way of disobedience is a way of great inteliigence. So it is not ultimately obedience or disobedience. Reduce the basic facts, its simply a question of intelligence—behave intelligently.
It is easy to throw responsibility, If Adolf Hitler had been victorious, Martin Heidegger would have said, he is victorious because he followed my philosophy, Martin Heidegger was a great intellectual as compared to Hitler, Hitler was just a retarded person, but powerful and we follow the powerful. We are brought up to follow the powerful, the teacher, the priest, the God, essentially whoever has the power is right. “might is right” and you have to follow it, it is simple because it needs no intelligence.
Now there are few questions here, can a totally obedient person be intelligent? From the points presented above, certainly not, and here comes the next question, answer to which will be a nail in the coffin of Sahaj Marg.
Can an idiot realize the ultimate and lead others to the path to the ultimate? And answer is certainly NO.
So as I have said time and again, people in sahaj marg are idiots because they have lost the power to use their intelligence as they have become absolutly obedient, hence they cannot utilize their own wisdom and realize what is known as ultimate truth, to realize the truth we must be intelligent enough. And an intelligent person cannot be part of sahaj marg. Sahaj marg and intelligence are anonyms of each other. Sahaj Marg is path of foolishness and only foolish people follow it. Those who disagree are welcome to prove otherwise.
This is what Sahaj Marg is all about
http://www.sahajmarg.org/smrti/education/publications/salfeatures/series4/obedience/obedience2.html
It is of course necessary that a disciple obeys the Master implicitly. The great Indian mystic Kabir is stated to have said that while a disciple should not take alcoholic drinks, nevertheless, if the Master orders a disciple to drink, the disciple should not merely drink but should drown himself in a vat of wine so that the liquor should pour into him through every pore of the body. This emphasises the degree of obedience that is called for. By obedience and by following the Master's guidance, not only in spiritual sadhana but in all aspects of one's life, one comes to realise that the Master is not just a Master of one's spiritual life but is an all-pervasive Master with franchise over the sum total of one's human functions. The development of this attitude strengthens one's attachment to the Master and begins to develop in the disciple a feeling of total dependence on the Master.
Parthsarthi Rajagopalachari is a fake guru who is in a habit of fooling people by taking name of some well known mystique's as in above case, he has used the name of Kabir and has given a wage example for obedience for himself, Kabir on the other hand has never made any such comment, on the contrary Kabir is said to have two guru's The thesis that he had two gurus, Ramanand and Shekh Taqqi, provides an optimism that he was not prone to any one orthodox set of beliefs
Parthsarthi in essence is a fake guru, and uses names of enlighten mystique's of past to substantiate his position as a Guru. Is there anything more worst then this?
This is what Sahaj Marg is. Obedience to a Psychopath.
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