Thursday, February 05, 2009

Frustration in SRCM (part-1)

Recently we have observed that there is growing frustration in high ranks of SRCM, Parthsarthi Rajagopalachari has let loose his pets on those who have question the validity of the system he claims is the only system available in this universe which can unite existence, which means efforts of Swami Vivekanada, Krishna, Ram Krishna Paramhans and likes were useless and only sahaj marg is the true system which can lead to truth.

Here is chari’s obedient abhyasi executing his order



Dr. Aditya Arya who is a serving public servant and a high ranking police official forgot that his responsibility as Jt. Commissioner of police is not to ask people to remove their communities from orkut, but to protect people and uphold the law of the land in his jurisdiction; He is not Jt. Commissioner of police serving SRCM but people of India, he is not suppose to spread the message of master of SRCM as a Jt. Commissioner of police, but he is obedient to his master and not to his duty, hence he forgot that. Can such a person act in an impartial manner? Can such a person be allowed to serve in a responsible post such as Jt. Commissioner of police? Is it possible for such a person to execute his official responsibility without letting his religious belief interfering in his duty? I leave this on wisdom of Government of India.

Coming back to Pathasarthi Rajagopalachari, even though claims like sahaj marg is a spiritual system is funny and laughable on the onset of it, but it has dangerous implications, there has been numerous incidences of life’s after life’s getting destroyed because of this system, and if such a system was so good, there would not have been so many blogs and enlighten people informing everyone else about harms caused by sahaj marg.

This growing frustration is mainly because of reduction in profit of sahaj marg, according to last years balance sheet of SRCM UK, available on internet, SRCM UK has posted a loss in 2008 as compared to its business in same period last year (2007), here is the balance sheet.

Now to fill this gap, SRCM has come up with yet another version of “Brighter World” and the leader of this cult has asked his zombies to be obedient and shell out hefty sum of money from their pockets in name of this “Brighter World” so that he can make up for the losses he has incurred, because people have begun to think.

Parthasarthi Rajagopalachari asks for absolute obedience numerous times, here is what he has said while asking people to buy the strange messages from brighter world :-


with the only stipulation being obedience to the Master's wishes, and that again is only for our benefit.
We obey to benefit. Unlike in public life, in human life, in our day-to-day life, we obey for somebody else's benefit. In spirituality we obey for our own benefit. You obey; you benefit. You don't obey; you don't benefit. In obedience there can be no questions: "Why have I to obey?" If you ask such a question, it would probably mean several lives more to be taken before you understand why I have to obey. In obedience there is no ‘why'. There is no search for logic. There is no demand for your question to ask: "Why this question should be obeyed?" or "Why this order should be obeyed? Why does the Master have to tell me and not somebody else? Why does he ask me to obey and not somebody else?" No questions. Totally unquestioning obedience is the only requirement of this spiritual way that I know, Sahaj Marg. The moment you start asking questions, it is implicit that you are questioning the wisdom of your Master, the intentions of your Master and his existence itself - never done, except at the peril of your own evolution.


http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/090202_Satkhol.jsp

We need to understand this, Parthasarthi Rajagopalachari, who has several criminal cases against him is asking for “totally unquestioning obedience”, it is very important for us to know the character of the person making such demand, is this person (Parthasarthi Rajagopalachari) a honest person ? NO, is is worthy of trust? NO, has he reached the state of salvation ? NO, then why should anyone become obedient to such a person? What else is done by Osama bin laden ? are suicide bombers less obedient?

Parthasarthi Rajagopalachari claims that “the only requirement in the spiritual path of sahaj marg is obedience to master” by this definition all suicide bombers are best abhyasis!! All the terrorist are defiantly reaching brighter world! These killers of Mumbai are sending messages form brighter world because their obedience and dedication to their master cannot be doubted as they have scarified their life for their mission and master….

This is what mindless obedience leads to, all the suicide bombers are brainwashed similarly in name of religion and spirituality, all the terrorist believe that their path is the ONLY path to salvation, their masters also make exactly the same claim and make the same demand, “Absolute obedience” without thinking. How harmful is this practice is known better by Indian and Americans, who have faced the terror of this absolute obedience.

What this cunning person is trying to say is you become obedience and buy these messages from brighter world so that I can make money, where is this brighter world? What is the proof that it is babuji only who is sending messages from this hypothetical brighter world? Is it not possible that babuji start loving his family from brighter world and start sending messages to Navneet’s SRCM? Why not kasturi?

What is more funny is the claim that these messages will continue to come to his group only and they will publish these messages on each birth anniversary of founder, this is what this mindless joker aka Parthasarthi Rajagopalachari is saying:-

This copy will be followed - much to my joy and surprise - by two more volumes, at least. One volume, that is the second volume now in 30th April 2009, third volume, 30th April 2010 and fourth volume, I hope 30th April 2011, closing with the last message of 31st December 2010.


Please note this statement is made on 2nd Feb 2009. can there be anything more stupid then this? And zombies of sahaj marg call this stupidity as spirituality!! If such a statement is spirituality or stupidity I leave this on the wisdom of the readers to decide.

To be continued…..

Thursday, January 22, 2009

How P. Rajagopalachari manipulates people

P. Rajagopalachari has been fooling people for quite sometime now, he asks his victim for complete surrender to himself, this he asks by manipulation and distorting stories from Indian Mythology, he has used story of Parashuram many time to make his victims obedient to himself to the point that they should kill anyone he asks them to kill, and should not even think about what he has ordered.


Here is what P. Rajagopalachari says:-


One thing that our people must understand is, in obedience there is no place for thought. You are not to think whether this is to be obeyed or not. The Guru orders, you do it. The famous example in our mythology is Parashuram. When he said he was devoted and loved his father, his father said, "Will you do what I tell you?" He said yes. He said, "Cut off your mother's head." Chichick. And the head came off. Mother's head! - obedience. Of course, then the father said, "I am pleased with you. Ask for a boon." He said, "I want my mother alive again." And the mother came alive again.

http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/090104_Chennai.jsp


Chari wants his victims to become absolute idiots, because as i have stated my times an intelligent person is bound to ask "WHY?" Chari says that in obedience there is no place for thought. You are not to think whether this is to be obeyed or not. The Guru orders, you do it.

Kindly note he is saying "The Guru orders, you do it" and then he presents a story from Indian Mythology about Parashurama. People who do not think will accept this story without questioning, as Chari has already stated that one must not think, simply OBEY.

Actual story of Parashuram is somewhat different, Parashurama did not killed his mother by obeying his Guru, but did so because his FATHER (not guru) asked him to do so...

If we follow the story presented by P. Rajagopalachari, the question aries:- when Parashuram obeyed his father, why should abhyasis obey their Guru and not their father? I am sure, a father is more loving then Guru can be in todays time.

More-so Parashurama was not present in 21st century, nor in 20th century nor in 19th or 18th century. Parashurama was present before Shree Ram of ayodhya took birth.

And there is no sure time line available in todays historical records about exact date of birth of Lord Ram. It is estimated that Lord Ram took birth on 10 January 5114 B.C i.e thousands of year back.

By distorting stories from Indian Mythology Chari is giving bad name to hindu religion as well.

Can P. Rajagopalachari establish himself as a person who can bring back a dead? if he can do that then if he asks someone to kill anyone else, it makes sense, but if Chari does not have power to bring back a dead to life, how in the world can he present such a story???


We must also know the actual story, as why Parashurams father asked him to kill his own mother?

Parashurams father was Jamadagni and his mothers name was Renuka

The story is:-


Renuka, the devoted wife of Jamadagni, had to get the Ganga water, for her husband's fire worship, and accordingly, proceeded to the river with a pot. The Ganga was flowing majestically. At that time a 'Gandharva' (celestial being) named Chitraratha was enjoying a festive bath and was engaged in frolic with his wives. Renuka was watching these activities for some time.

She had been somewhat mesmerized and after a while awakened herself realizing
her duty to carry the pot of water to her husband. She rushed back to the hermitage.
Jamadagni was a sage possessing supreme vision. He visualized
the reason for his wife's delayed arrival. He was angered at her and took umbrage
at her becoming 'impure' by witnessing Chitraratha with unbecoming interest. He called out his sons and ordered them to kill her. The children were shocked; they could not believe their own ears. How can they kill their own mother? They stood transfixed.

Jamadagni was now furious, seeing that his sons were not obeying him. Parashurama
returned after a while, and Jamadagni asked his son to kill his mother and also
the disobedient brothers.

Parashurama did not hesitate even for a moment. Readily he raised his axe, chopped off his mother's head and later killed his brothers. As he bowed before his father in reverence, the latter's anger subsided. However, five persons had been killed.

Jamadagni said: My son, your devotion to your father has pleased me. Tell me what is your desire and I shall fulfill it. Parashurama replied, O father, nothing satisfies me more than fulfilling your desire. If you want to grant me boons, please forgive my mother and brothers for their disobedience and kindly bring them back to life.As you wish, said Jamadagni. The dead rose to life and prostrated before the sage.

The ashram's rituals were resumed unhindered. Thus Parashurama saved his mother
and brothers.

http://www.webonautics.com/mythology/avataar_parashurama3.html

Parashurama was not obedient to his Guru but to his father, he knew that his mother had done wrong and his brothers also did wrong, he did not killed his mother and brother without thinking, he knew that they did a mistake and asked his father to forgive them.

His father forgave them, Chari will make a new story out of this and claim that all father's who's children are abhyasis should be obedient to their children and state the same story.... Because he has already demanded that one must not think only OBEY!!

I hope people will verify what Chari says because he has established himself as a big manipulator. Because of manipulation of Sahaj marg numerous families have been destroyed till now, and if sahaj marg is not eradicated, many more families will be destroyed.

We need to save our family from Cults and the only way to be safe is to think, question and do not rest till you have found the answer.

Dear victims of sahaj marg, start thinking, your leader is a dangerous person, be-aware of his tactics and do not fall in traps of sahaj marg.

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Analysis of Chari's mind by relative of a victim

This is a comment posted on previous post obedience and intelligence, I guess this analysis is worth reading by everyone directly or indirectly affected by Sahaj Marg.

Jo is responding to one of Chari's speech publish in SRCM website.

Hi shashwat,
My dear sister in the trap of sahaj marg. I am trying to wean her out and the following is a mail i sent her. You may like to use it as a post
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The following is a long speech given by Chari in Mammalapuram in Kerala in response to a question. The interesting point to note is how he rejects all thoughts of criticism to sahaj marg by two ways - one - saying that none are qualified to comment on the 'marg' as they are outside the marg and two - that people are using their intellect to criticise sahajmarg whereas the true way to look at the world is through the heart. His method of recruitment is initiated by ridiculing all that the target communityis proud of i.e. 100% education, relative prosperity and their intellect.

The fact is that the heart is just a pump - a lump of muscle - just like your biceps or quadriceps or for that matter the gluteus. It is downright silly to think that one can 'think' from the heart. There is no grey cells in the heart and definitely no god - it contains only blood, soft tissue and some fat!

Read the speech and try to truly understand it. My comments are in inline.




Master: You want to stay one more day?
Abhyasi: Yes. You will stay one more day, Master?

Master: Oh no, no! We were supposed to stay, but you know… Babuji used to say, "Not too much enjoyment. Balance!"—what Brother Somakumar said just now, about contentment and happiness. Contentment is balance; happiness is overflow. [There should be] no overflow, no emotion. Contentment is a feeling, a state of mind, a state of heart. Happiness is an emotion. So, no emotion in Sahaj Marg. The secret of all this he forgot—now how does this Sahaj Marg succeed? You have been a prefect; how did you succeed in your work?

Comment :Emotion is human and was very important in the ultimate survival of the homosapien. It is a natural thing and prepares your body appropriately for the stimulus that you have got. Contentment, comfort and happiness are synonyms and mean 'absence of discomfort caused by pain, injury, guilt or unpleasant stimuli'. By grading synonyms the master is laying a guilt trap for you. You would now always be guilty whenever you feel happy - because no one can differentiate between contentment and happiness because they are the same thing! This is a way to control people.


Abhyasi: As a prefect? By trying to allow the Master to work through me.

Master: Yes. But, in real fact, what a prefect should do is to win the heart of the abhyasi. We have a saying that 'Love is God. God is love.' If that is so, when you work on the heart where God is supposed to be, what are you doing? Suppose you have a coach and four horses, and you are harnessing them to the coach. And then the boss comes and says, "You drive him." And he thanks you for taking him to wherever he wants to go. In reality, who is doing the driving? The horses. Why do they go? Because you love the horses. If you don't love horses and you hate them—neighhhhhh [sounding like a recalcitrant horse]! So you pat them on the neck, you brush them, you kiss them, give them a cube of sugar, and then they will behave well. The feeling is important; the horse must look at you and recognize you.

Comment: He likens an Abhyasi to an animal who needs to be seduced by any means possible including a shower of love and even a 'cube of sugar'.



So here also we do the same thing. You know, Kerala is a tough nut. But my first apprenticeship came because, when I was serving in my company, I had to do some work here to sell things. And I was very successful, because I got along with everybody. I never made friends. Even today I tell my son, Krishna: "I have no friends. I have only one friend; He is up." But through Him, you know—it is like a waterfall is there, but water is also here, if you convey it properly, in a river or a stream.

Comment:Imagine how manipulative this person was - got along with everyone but made no friends. He is a seeker who wants everything but wants to give little!


So everything comes from there; not only Sahaj Marg. Love comes from there. God is love. So when you have God in your heart you are capable of loving properly. Not this sham business of lust mixed with opportunity. Do you understand? So in spirituality when you are able to harness the hearts of your people, they work as if they are not working for you, but for themselves—which is true.

Comment:As we know there is nothing but blood and tissue in the heart. 'Lust mixed with opportunity' is a clever guilt trap becuse it means nothing but appeals to the puritanical instinct of Indians.


Now these people may think, "What is this? Somebody comes from Madras and builds." I'm not building for myself. I may come here or not, it doesn't matter. But, this is for the people of Kerala. They are expected to use it more than anybody else. And why should they use it? Because they see that somebody has come who is interested in their welfare—interested enough to put money. As I said, it is going to cost half a million dollars. The land we got free, thanks to the generosity of people like Somakumar and Ravi. That is the first step, you see. You make a heart so nice, so tender, so loving that they are willing to give you anything. You follow? It should be like that in marriage also. Not something you ask and you get. You give, and all this bribery business—'I give you a nice saree; you look after me'—not like that. This must work [pointing to the heart].

Comment:Later the master will tell you that everything that the money buys is fraud but here he harks over the half a million dollars he is going to spend for the Ashram. Now he is cleverly denigrating marriage. In fact, marriage is a social contract between two people in the real world. It must necessarily , like all contracts, depend on honest give and take transactions. After listening to this all abhyasis who feel the urge for this give and take will feel guilty.



You know, Kerala began very late in Sahaj Marg. Tamilnadu developed. All over India it was developing. Gujarat was developing. Uttar Pradesh—you know, it's a mad state. It is the state of Lord Krishna, and there is mad love, love without discipline. In Tamilnadu it is too much intellectual. So they want intellect in everything. They will say, "God has a brain, so why don't we use our brain?" They don't understand truly the love, the value of the heart. Even in music, you will find North Indian music is more beautiful to hear, melodious. South India Carnatic music is more grammar, percussion and technical. So, even though I studied Carnatic music for eight years and I played the flute, when I heard Maali (T.R. Mahalingam)—he was a Carnatic man, but he was totally unorthodox—I gave up my Carnatic tradition and went to the North Indian tradition. I had to play in my marriage with my guru, and he found that whatever he had taught, I was playing in a different way, you see, with him. So, after the concert, he said, "I think you have changed your style." I said, "Yes, I'm sorry to say, but—I have not changed the music; I've only changed the style." So like that, we go towards the heart means, it goes. In music especially, it is more and more of innovation from the heart. Whereas, if you innovate from the head—like you have a metronome, tick, tock, tick, tock—it's not so good. People may admire it who are intellectual.

Comment:This is a classic example of preaaching something and practicing something else. Look how he denigrates his guru by ridiculing him and trying to sound more spiritual than him. Rest of the passage has nothing important - finding a type of music good or not is personal preference. Some prefer melody - others prefer strict form. It is personal choice and there is nothing bad about one or the other.



So what we have done here, thanks to Somakumar, Ravi, and some of our prefects… Some have been very 'Kerala' prefects. Even prefects—they have not worked. They say, "Why should I work?" They accept the prefect certificate, then they say, "Nokatte,"that means 'let us see.' "That fellow [referring to himself] has come to Pathanamthitta once. He will not come again," they will say.

Comment:This is the worst form of ridicule to people who have donated their land to the ashram. It is a way of trying to make them guilty and thus under your power. This is a frequently used technique by parents especially in north india where they subtly insult their own children in front of everyone ( ... for their own good!)



So that we have everywhere. We have Punjabi prefects who are totally Punjabi. We have Tamil prefects who are entirely Tamil—Tamil culture, Tamil music, Tamil language. And they will say, "Why doesn't he speak in Tamil? This is Tamilnadu, you know." But I must speak a language which everybody understands, and that is the language of the heart. When you tell a child 'no', it understands, but it is not yet French—it is too young. And, you say "Oui, oui, cheri. [Yes, yes, dear.]" and it understands. How does it understand? You tell your dog, it understands. You tell your cow, it understands. It is not words we really understand. It is the feeling and the emotion behind it that we understand. I can smile and say, "Oh, these French are stupid, you know," but it will not fool the French. Isn't it? So reality has a way of touching hearts, whether we know it or not.

Comment:Look at the play of words. In the first para of the speech he says - 'no emotion in sahaj marg' - and now he says that the only language cows dogs and humans understand is the language of emotion! Amazing!



So that is what we should convey. And this can be conveyed only when you become selfless yourself. Babuji told me a secret long ago. He said, "Remember, you are in this business of being a prefect for their good; and you are working for me. In between you have nothing to do." But that 'nothing to do', many prefects say, "Oh, then I sit with my eyes closed. It's a wonderful thing. And we get coffee and free food after that!" [Abhyasi: "In Kerala?"] Everywhere! So we are in between, like the pipe between the water and the consumer. Or like the electrical wire between the powerhouse and the consumer. It has to convey. So I asked Babuji, "What do I get out of it? I mean, you must give me something, damn it!" And Babuji said, "If you give food with your hand, your hand has the smell of food. That is yours. And if you distribute roses, it has the smell of roses. And if you distribute spirituality, you will have some spirituality left in you." And he said even the best prefect retains twenty percent of the transmission in his own heart.

Comment:This is a motivation para for the perceptors - a false assurance that as they commit the fraud of transmission (convey) something gets left behind in them. The fact is that there is no proof that Babuji transmits anything because he is dead long ago. However the perceptors have been made to believe in transmission so they are being 'bribed' by your smart businessman master by 20% of all goods and services flowing through the pipeline that runs through their territory. How does Babuji know that twenty percent is retained - how do you know chari was told this ridiculous proposition of 20% retention by Babuji - he may have made it up.



You know when you convey water through a canal, much of the water goes into the ground; that is its reward. Now in modern technology, because we get less and less water in most countries, we line it with plastic and make the water not go into the earth. One day the earth will rebel. So, Babuji used to say, "In this business you get twenty percent commission." In no business transaction do you get twenty percent commission. But our prefects, some of them, they want to count the twenty percent and see if it is really twenty percent. That doesn't happen. But when you have faith, like Somakumar said in his talk now, you find that you're changing so much that sometimes you start weeping yourself. "How did I change so much?"

Comment:Understand that commission is a financial term and can be measured in units of currency. What units is spirituality measured? How is it that 20% is retained by perceptor? It would be far more beneficial to the poor perceptor if 5% of all donations recieved are given to them as commission rather than 20% of unmeasurable and useless spirituality.


Now, those who have hard hearts, those who are in life only for business, for power, for supremacy, to dominate others, they don't want their hearts to change. Recently I lost an abhyasi who stopped meditating. He was giving excuses that he is very busy, he is travelling abroad, this that and the other. But the real fact is, as reported to me by somebody else, that he is the financial controller of a big organisation, and he has to deal with money. And he felt his heart was becoming too soft so that he could not do his business effectively. And he stopped. What shall we do with such people? The world is full of such people. Sahaj Marg tries its best. We can break a mountain with a transmission, but what about the human heart? We are forbidden, also.

Comment:Again a guilt trap for those who do not find time to meditate and for those RICH that want to leave. If the master is divine and in touch with Babuji and almighty - why does he need someone else to tell him what the real fact. Soft heart and hard heart are imaes that the master wants you to see so that he can exercise effective control. The fact is the hearts of all people are more of less of the same density. A person with hard heart will find it extremely difficult to survive in this planet.



Babuji made it very clear that we can deal only with those who are willing to be transformed. We cannot compel. Many people have asked, "What about God, can He not change [people]?" He said, "Then what is the pleasure? There is no pleasure in changing somebody just like that. We have dogs, we have lions, we have cows. We can train them in a matter of a few months. But human beings—some will never change." Babuji used those words, and I said, "Babuji, you said 'never'?" He said, "Yes. I am sorry to say it. They will come here again and again and again and again, until big tragedies, big losses make their hearts slowly melt. It may take a hundred lives, five hundred lives, five thousand lives—only they can decide." And then when these big tragedies happen, you know like a millionaire, one who has two thousand million dollars, and his wife is dying of cancer and he can do nothing. Then he begins to realise that his money is useless for the real things of life. It can buy you yachts; it can buy you Boeing 747s, private planes. It can buy you all the beautiful cinema actresses, and anybody else you want. But it cannot buy you health; it cannot buy you love. There may be a thousand women travelling with you on your yachts, but none of them love you. They are there for your money. That he finds out, you see. "I have spent millions. Thousands of them eat with me every day, you know, caviar and, I don't know what else, brussel sprouts! I spend lavishly on them. Every day they consume hundred bottles of champagne. But not one of them loves me." Then he begins to realise that money is a fraud. Everything money buys is a fraud. It is temporary; it has no permanence; it does not last. The only lasting thing is love. Then he thinks of his nurse who has been nursing him patiently through twenty-five years, and she is secretly in love with him. He marries her. But to come to that stage you have to go through a lot of illness, a lot of pain, a lot of suffering, a lot of betrayal. That's a long way, you know. It can go on life after life.

Comment:Pleasure is an emotion and emotions as you have seen in the first para has no place in the sahaj marg. Why is the master then bothered if there is pleasure or no pleasure in changing someboby just like that. See how he denigrates human beings to something lower than dogs, lions and cows. But wait - you can avoid being called worse than a dog only and only if you allow yourself to be 'transformed'.
The storycited here is a modern version of one of the stories read in every hindu household in satyanarayan katha. You may be able to remember it - only the saviour there was styanarayan and here it is sahaj marg! Inthe end of the para he says 'life after life' which indicates reincarnation whereas here http://www.srcm.org/welcome/faq.jsp the official website of SRCM says that they do not believe in reincarnation. Duplicity? can you see? The fact is there is no proof that there is life after death. We live on only through our opffspring and not by entering into a new body - at least that is what we know scientifically.



So sometimes I have felt—why do we take so many lives? Suppose I am prone to anger, like Ravana. In one life I get over that. I become so angry, I shoot somebody. I am taken by the police. I go to jail. I live all my life in jail and die. At that time I decide—never more will I get angry. It's a deathbed resolution. It goes with the soul. In my next life, I am very gentle. But I am arrogant about my service. "Without me, you cannot exist," like a nurse. And I see that whenever I am arrogant, the patient is dying. Then at the end of that life, I say, "No more arrogance." You see this girl who is simple, she has no education, and she is successful with the patients because she sits, loves them, kisses them. Whereas I am arrogant in my starched uniform and with my stethoscope. So, no more arrogance. So, anger gone; arrogance gone. Like this, one by one, we have to lose. So it takes so many lives. It is like a boy who fails at geography, therefore he fails. He says, "I must study geography." Next time he is very good at geography but he has neglected mathematics.So we have to get completely an integrated growth where all characteristics are balanced. Without balance, there is no spiritual progress. We must have money, we must have health, we must have power, we must have joy, but everything for the sake of others, not for yourself. This is the secret of life. When this happens, then whatever people may think of you, inside your motor is the best, like a Mercedes Benz: silent, noiseless, very powerful. This power nobody can see, therefore you don't use it. It doesn't have to be used, because from your heart everything comes. They recognize. Like you go to a cowshed and all your cows recognize you because you are feeding them every day. Mooo! They come. And you pat them on the neck, give them a banana and they are happy. So unless you are able to win hearts, there is no work which can succeed.

Comment:Anger, pride, joy, happiness, humility, sacrifice, attachment are all important emotions and they make us differnet from the ant or a cockroach. They are necessary to live. If you feel no anger when the terrorist tries to put fire to the Taj hotel or no pride when you have put in a good days work and created something - you are turning into an android. Emotions are the most important thing in us being human. Imagine two million emotionless people listening to Gandhiji ot Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandela. Nothing in this world will get achieved without emotion and passion. We would have a world full of half awake automatons mumbling around waiting to die hoping that they are not reborn as a cockroach!



Of course today you see they are paid more and more, but that is in the nature of a bribe. Once upon a time, somebody used to get ten rupees, today they get a million rupees. Like Bill Gates has a wealth of about fifty-eight billion dollars. What will he do with it? He is a rich man. But if the share price falls by a dollar, he will be worth thirty-eight billion instead of fifty-eight billion. Somebody can commit suicide if his heart is not strong. Another says, "Well, this is only paper. Tomorrow, if it rises, I am again worth [more]. If it falls, I have nothing. So, I'm not rich. It depends on the rise and fall of the stock market." You know, it's like a ship. Its safety depends upon the rise and fall of the water. If it is violent, what happens to the commander? He will have to pray, and they do pray. The mast breaks, the engine runs down, and you are going like this and like this, and people are in danger.

Comment:Notice how obsessed the master is with money. How he pumps up everyone's base emotion of 'fear' artificially. Fear is an important emotion for the 'fight or flight' response. It puts us in crisis mode and bonds us together socially to face the enemy. Here master uses fear as an emotional tool to bond against a faceless enemy much like Bush's War on terrror.


A little wind and the sailor loses his ego. A little fire and the fireman loses his ego. Like that, to lose the ego, normally we have to lose something on which our ego is fixed. Therefore a rich man has to lose his money. A man who is very proud of his health has to lose his health. A man who is very proud of his power has to lose his position. "Oh, I have been president of America for two terms"—it is cut. And then he is building his own library—memoirs.

Comment:More obsession with money and its loss. More spectre of fear - the oldest rule in the book of religion - scare the shit out of them.



So please remember all of you, that the characteristic that you are most proud of, is the one you have to throw away first. "No, no I am very well-educated. Kerala is the land of education." My friend Ravi said, "We are all literate." What do you use your literacy for? What haveyou used it for? Until this Gulf money started coming to Kerala, it was a lousy state where people chewed tobacco and ate kaccha supari—paaku [betel nut]. Isn't it? Now because money is coming, Western money, Gulf money, there is some sense of culture, some sense of dependence on other people that we are prosperous. Before we thought 'Kerala for Keralites'. Evide poyi Kerala for Keralites? [Where has the idea of 'Kerala for Keralites' gone?]" We have to be beaten before we will recognize. "E Parashurama kshetram [This is the land of Parashurama]." O adheyo? Parashuraman evide poyi? Evide kaanunnilla. [Oh, is that so? Where has Parashurama gone? He is not here.] So you see, we are beaten with the stick of which we are possessive. "I am egoistic," I say. Somebody takes that stick and hits me on the head. And we say, "Ayyoda! [Oh!] he took my stick and beat me with it." God has no weapons; He uses your own weapons to kick you in the back, first.

Comment:See how he wants your personality to be devoid of all self respect and pride. He wants the Keralites to be shameful of their education by belittling their (lack of)achievements despite being educated, shameful of their money because it has come from gulf and before that money came they were betel nut chewing peasants and belittling the biggest connection Kerala has with Aryan North that is of being the land of Parsurama. This man is evil.God is supposed to be benevelant. Why should he feel the need to kick you on your back? If I were god, I would file a defamation suit against master for implying that i would cause harm to my own shareholders (aka Rmalinga Raju)!


So this we must understand, you see. My ego has to go by my having to lose that upon which I have totally depended for my life. [If] I am depending only on money, my money will have to go. Overnight, a billionaire is a pauper. He has to sell his yacht, he has to sell his girls away, he has to sell his caviar and his champagne—whole cellars of them. And then he comes. "Oh Roberto, what happened to you?" "C'est la vie. [Such is life.]" Then he becomes repentant because, now he has to go and ask people for something. You know the old tradition that monks, sannyasis had to beg for their food, was to kill their ego. The man will never ask somebody. 'You say you are thirsty. Why didn't you ask for a glass of water?' 'No, no, I don't like to ask for water. I will go and buy. Sept franc. [Seven francs.]" Okay. 'You really wanted to go to the toilet, when we were in that house for two hours." "No, no, I preferred not to go. Indian toilets are messy. I'll go back to the hotel." Ego, isn't it? What is good for a human being is good for another human being. So sannyasis, monks, rishis, they have the tradition of having to go to do yaachaka (begging) as we call it. It's not really begging. You only say, "Bhavati bhikshaam dehi"—I have come to ask; if you have, please give me. And this you collect and take to your ashram, cook and eat—all of you. So even the begging is a collective thing. It's not for you yourself. And if still you have something left over, you give it to another ashram. Nothing is to be kept.

Comment:Again see how master is obsessed with money and now girls - who the Billionaire has to 'sell' away! Gawd! He must learn the ancient Bhikshak tradition and beg for donations and open his books for scrutiny to see if he is not keeping the donations balance at the end of the accounting period as reserves and giving them away to other ashrams.



So you see, the old Christian tradition that before we go to bed, let me make my enemies my friends. I shall have nothing on my heart which will ruin my sleep, make me wake up worse than I went to bed and then I have more enmity: "Because of that fellow I did not sleep." So the heart must be pure when we go to bed. So we have the evening cleaning. The heart must be purified in the morning totally again, and so we have the morning meditation. Before going to bed, we have the evening cleaning process that takes care of whatever is residual. That is the beauty of the Sahaj Marg system. It has been tailor-made in such a simple fashion that any stupid human being, whether he is an Eskimo in Lapland or a cart puller in the streets of Kerala or a pilot flying a Jumbo, anybody can do it very easily—no effort, no time, no money. And I'm surprised, you see—what keeps people away? It is their cultural arrogance, linguistic arrogance and their national arrogance. All making up one solid mass of ego, like cheese, when you cook it, for a pizza; you can't digest it. And pizza is so popular! Manassilaayo? [Understood?]

Comment:The only arrogance i see here is in sahaj marg who say that 1. you can not discuss it intellectually 2. you should ignore all scientific and biological evidence to see that heart is just a muscular tissue pump and it is not possible to fill it with anything other than blood 3. that you can clean the heart whereas it is niether desirable nor possible to clean the heart except by introducing a stent to clean up clogged arteries that go into the heart.



So what are we to say? Every one of you should love in such a way that you have kavarchi, you know, aakarshana shakti [power of attraction]. And how will it come? When you are not there and only the other person is there. If you give a sitting just to put on record that today I gave seven sittings, that is for yourself, isn't it? Babuji never said he has transformed so and so; he never said that. In fact once, one very senior officer of the government came. He said, "Babuji, can you show me two people whom you have liberated? Then I will join your Mission." I was going to hit that fellow in the face, you see. It's like telling an apple tree, "Show me an apple and then I will accept you are an apple tree"—and they are hanging from the tree! Isn't it?

Comment:More arrogance and more emotion (anger - to hit another human being in the face) where as he advocates that it has no place in sahaj marg. Also inherent dislike for questioning because the ego of the master is too great to be affronted even by a 'high ranking' government servant.



So we have fools. And fools—why are they fools? Because again arrogance will not allow them to say that, "I do not know." "Oh yes, I know everything. Spirituality—chi chi! It's a cult." Like they have in Europe, the problem of the cult. Only fools talk about something they don't know, with the vehemence of somebody who knows everything about it. "Oui, oui," they say. So you see, talking about something about which you know nothing in a way that you know everything, is the first sign of arrogance and ego. Pride! And then when we ask you the first question, you say, "Do you know anything that you are asking me a question?" "No, no, brother. You said you are a scientist. Can you tell me the velocity of light?" "Look in a textbook. Who are you testing?" One who dare not be tested will refuse to be tested, as if he knows everything and you are insulting him by asking! You understand?

Comment:More hatred towards people not following sahaj marg! See how cleverly he has used science and scientists to buttress his argument that he should not be questioned but obeyed without questions.



So these are the signs by which humanity can be easily understood. You can look at a man's face and know what he is. Reading is no difficulty. But we don't know what to expect when we read. Therefore we say, "I cannot read." You understand? Most prefects have this problem. They say, "I am not able to read. I have been a prefect for fifteen years." Because I think we expect something in writing, or some cinema-like pictures, whereas the reading is here [points to the heart]. So please remember that, all prefects, and try to put this [points to the heart] to use when you give a sitting—look at your heart. Suppose I am in an air-conditioned room with glass windows. And I see a tree swaying. I know there is a breeze blowing. If I want to feel it, I have to go outside. One is visual; one is from the heart.

Comment:Another impossible direction by the master - 'look at the heart'. You can not - if you do you will have to look at someone elses that too in the OT during an open heart surgery. And last thing you will find there is the answers to the questions of humanity. What you will see is a blood soaked throbbing muscle organ contracting and expanding till you bypass it when it is difficult to see how it is different from the muscles of your thigh or your bum.



Now we are looking for visual evidence in everything that we do. Babuji said "Always look only to the heart. Your eyes, your ears, your nose, they have nothing to do with it." Can you touch somebody and say he is spiritual? Of course Master can, but can you? No. Can you look at somebody and say he is sick? No—unless he is a very good doctor who thinks of the patient. But modern doctors, they have to look at reports to see that the patient is sick. They don't know that he is sick. They say, "Give me the blood report, pulse, scan, MRI," you know. And after the patient spends twenty thousand rupees, they say, "You are not well." "Mama mia!" you say, "I knew it when I came here." That is today's medicine. Today's priest, he does not believe in what he is preaching. And if you ask him, "Father, do you believe?" He says "My son, my problem is the same as yours. I lack faith." Very humanly, and very humbly, he says, "My son, my problem is the lack of faith like you have, but I depend on God Almighty to cure it." And you think he is a very good man because he says it in a nice, mild manner. So this is the hypocrisy of medicine, of law, of churches, all over the world. I don't mean only Christian—Hindu, everything. They are all churches.

Comment:He says look into the heart because he wants you to remain confused. Only if you are confused will you follow his stupid orders and accept his conflicting and often dichotomous dictats, incredible ideology and subtle but atrong threatening suggestions to cough up your money.


So it is also good in a way because it puts humanity back on its own. We have to create a new sense of approach to the Almighty. We have to learn that I don't have to go to church. I have it right here. I don't have to depend on a priest. He is right here inside me. I do not have to look to books for behaviour, morality, ethics. They are all inside me. Why have they not shown? Because you did not want to listen. You kept the book closed. Open it. So we say, "Open your heart." Then you find that God is there, the priest is there, the book is there, and you are there. And if you permit that to go on, you are progressively gone and He is progressively growing until the God that was in me but whom I have neglected, whom I have not listened to, whom I have ignored totally, is now me—and I have no problem.

Comment:I promise you with all the conviction i have that if you open your heart you will find no book, no priest , no god .. nothing except blood and tissue.... and you will die in the attempt.


So this is what we should achieve or try to achieve, and this is what I pray that all of you will be blessed with.


Comment:Realise the truth behind this fraud religion and leave sahajmarg now.
Thank you.

Sunday, January 18, 2009

Obedience and intelligence

A person obeys another person because he is influenced by a stronger power, whether it being wealth, intellect, experience, or a higher position. Human beings have been obeying and disobeying since the beginning. They have been thought that obedience is a virtue and disobedience a vice, but this is not true all the time. The person obeying authority must be able to recognize irrational and rational authority, because not being able to do so can become dangerous. When people become a part of a cult or a gang it is usually at a vulnerable time when they are recruited and they were not able to recognize signs needed to make a rational decision. These people become followers to leaders with narcissistic personalities who believe they are some sort of messiah that will make the world a better place.


Obedience is simple, obedience needs no intelligence, all machines are obedient, there is nothing like an disobedient machine, intelligence is human, if anyone is asking for a complete obedience, that person in essence is asking you to become a machine, which s/he can use for his own selfish motive. When a person is obedient, he thinks he is not responsible for the act, take the case of Nazi’s after the second world war, in the Nuremberg trials, all the Adolf Hitler’s top men simply said they were not responsible, they were simply following orders and don’t feel guilty of the crimes they committed, this is what sahaj marg intends to do with its victim, make them machines, and make them commit crime against humanity, and make them feel, they are not responsible, however no court of law, which is based on reasoning will accept their argument and it is them who will be punished, as a reference take the case of Ikuo Hayashi. A perfect example of human converted into an obedient machine by a claimed spiritual guru.


Obedience has a simplicity, disobedience needs a higher order of intelligence, any idiot can be obedient, infect only idiots can be obedient. The person of intelligence is bound to ask WHY? – “Why am I suppose to do it?” and “unless I know the reason and consequence of it, I am not going to involve in it!” An intelligent person is responsible.

Intelligence is directly proportional to responsibility.


Responsibility is not a game, it is one of the most authentic ways of living, , but it does not mean disobedience for the sake of disobedience, that would be idiotic too, we must use our own intelligence, and when we use our own intelligence we are responsible and grow mature, and hence even though we accept opinion of others but we have agreed to the opinion and that is not obedience but responsibility.


Just to go against obedience is not going to move intelligence higher; it remains on the same plane. Disobedience does not mean saying an absolute no in every situation, it simply means deciding whether to do it or not, and it is defiantly not the question of hating the person seeking obedience or hating to be told what to do, it is just being responsible.


The way of disobedience is not stagnant, just going against every order and feeling anger and hate and revenge towards the person. The way of disobedience is a way of great inteliigence. So it is not ultimately obedience or disobedience. Reduce the basic facts, its simply a question of intelligence—behave intelligently.


It is easy to throw responsibility, If Adolf Hitler had been victorious, Martin Heidegger would have said, he is victorious because he followed my philosophy, Martin Heidegger was a great intellectual as compared to Hitler, Hitler was just a retarded person, but powerful and we follow the powerful. We are brought up to follow the powerful, the teacher, the priest, the God, essentially whoever has the power is right. “might is right” and you have to follow it, it is simple because it needs no intelligence.


Now there are few questions here, can a totally obedient person be intelligent? From the points presented above, certainly not, and here comes the next question, answer to which will be a nail in the coffin of Sahaj Marg.

Can an idiot realize the ultimate and lead others to the path to the ultimate? And answer is certainly NO.

So as I have said time and again, people in sahaj marg are idiots because they have lost the power to use their intelligence as they have become absolutly obedient, hence they cannot utilize their own wisdom and realize what is known as ultimate truth, to realize the truth we must be intelligent enough. And an intelligent person cannot be part of sahaj marg. Sahaj marg and intelligence are anonyms of each other. Sahaj Marg is path of foolishness and only foolish people follow it. Those who disagree are welcome to prove otherwise.


This is what Sahaj Marg is all about
http://www.sahajmarg.org/smrti/education/publications/salfeatures/series4/obedience/obedience2.html


It is of course necessary that a disciple obeys the Master implicitly. The great Indian mystic Kabir is stated to have said that while a disciple should not take alcoholic drinks, nevertheless, if the Master orders a disciple to drink, the disciple should not merely drink but should drown himself in a vat of wine so that the liquor should pour into him through every pore of the body. This emphasises the degree of obedience that is called for. By obedience and by following the Master's guidance, not only in spiritual sadhana but in all aspects of one's life, one comes to realise that the Master is not just a Master of one's spiritual life but is an all-pervasive Master with franchise over the sum total of one's human functions. The development of this attitude strengthens one's attachment to the Master and begins to develop in the disciple a feeling of total dependence on the Master.



Parthsarthi Rajagopalachari is a fake guru who is in a habit of fooling people by taking name of some well known mystique's as in above case, he has used the name of Kabir and has given a wage example for obedience for himself, Kabir on the other hand has never made any such comment, on the contrary Kabir is said to have two guru's The thesis that he had two gurus, Ramanand and Shekh Taqqi, provides an optimism that he was not prone to any one orthodox set of beliefs

Parthsarthi in essence is a fake guru, and uses names of enlighten mystique's of past to substantiate his position as a Guru. Is there anything more worst then this?

This is what Sahaj Marg is. Obedience to a Psychopath.

Friday, January 16, 2009

The Sahaj Marg Trap

The whole thing looks very subtle to the newcomer, a young chap, explained the benefits of sahaj marg by some of their close relatives or someone who has won over their trust over a period of time. I believe today that anyone with a minimum of critical sense would find-out in this apparently innocent meditation classes the beginning of a long manipulation process.

People follow Sahaj Marg as it is supposed to be followed, they consider it as Masters gift.. they are carried by the collective enthusiasm and are very sensitive to the other abhyasis hearty support, not suspecting even once, that their apparent sincerity was in reality a well-trained, careful selection of words and attractive arguments.

This is all fine during the initial months of Sahaj Marg practice, but one gets more involved when they logically recognize their Master (P. Rajagopalachari) as a divine incarnation, representing the divine: His ever-present photograph is the unavoidable tool to persuade new-comers that the benefits and experience of meditation come from him and that his divine nature resides inside the abhyasi in the form of the spiritual energy who is the source of their newly acquired wisdom. By claiming that ownership, Chari becomes abhyasis inner personal guru.

Thus the importance given to Chari, while transmitting a newly brainwashed member, You just need to see the tense reactions of preceptors when a new-comer mentions he prefers to meditate without considering Chari, in essence in Sahaj Marg Chari IS the meditation. The imagined transmission is the initial drop of a slow but regular poisoning & intoxicating process, the solid milestone on which the sand castle of Sahaj Marg beliefs are built.

Preceptors would even more warmly reassure the new comer at this stage by insisting that "you are your own master", that you are the one who makes the choices. In reality however abhyasis start very gradually to be controlled. What initially was a method to observe their personal inner functioning becomes a method of manipulation.
How does that happen? In their daily life, abhyasis start analyzing their actions, thoughts and emotions thinking "is what I am doing, thinking, feeling in accordance with Sahaj Marg?" or "does what I'm doing, thinking, feeling please Master?" They are even asked to maintain a diary and submit the same to their preceptor, in addition to remaining in constant remembrance of their leader. The regular practice of this personal control becomes so automatic, that after few years they find themselves only doing things that please Chari. They are so adapted to this ideal behavioral pattern that they even enjoy it and become happy about it, which in reality makes things worse: Master becomes the source of their happiness. Abhyasis keep repeating "May master bless you" or "Thanks to Master". All this is outcome of constant remembrance, absolute control applied on them and their minds, when a person makes a statement like “Thanks to Master” or “May Master bless you” or “by the grace of Master” understand immediately that this person has crossed the threshold of inner self control and is totally under control of Chari and is on his mercy.

Through their daily worship of Chari as God on earth, they are at the mercy of all his desires, preferences and increasingly fanatic ideas. There is nothing a abhyasi wouldn't do for him: People get married, divorce, send their kids away and gobble their sufferings (these are only petty human attachments) simply because he tells them to.

Of course they claim very seriously that they do these things from their own will. It's perfectly true: Masters will IS their will. They are his instruments. Master can do anything, lie, rob, cheat. He doesn't even need to explain his behaviour, each abhyasi will individually do the job on his behalf. The supreme trick is that when they don't find any cosmic interpretation to his behaviour they will claim he is the Master, and his actions cannot be understood by the human brain since the brain is his creation, and that he behaves in that way to test their devotion/belief in him.

Succeeding such "tests" becomes a source of recognition and respect. This is how sahaj marg traps a human and converts him/her into an obedient drone.

Thursday, January 15, 2009

The psycho guru, P. Rajagopalachari (Chariji)

In Indian system there is an age old tradition of guru and shishya, wherein a guru is placed at a high social status, and was placed next to parents, this was true when honesty and commitment for the welfare of the society was by and large prominent in minds of people living in that society to which the guru belonged, in-fact, in traditional Aryan system of living, every person had the potential to become a guru in later part of his life.


The early Aryans use to follow the system of 4 stages of life, wherein at each important junction of their life they use to transform from one domain of life to another, the four stages of life were named as followes:-


1.Brahmacharya Ashram.
2.Grahasta Ashram
3.Vanprasthan Ashram.
4.Sanyas Ashram


The word ashram means shelter implying that the person takes shelter successively in each of the four stages during his life’s journey,



The first ashram, Brahmacharya, is the student phase of life when the person is supposed to immerse himself or herself in learning the craft or trade in preparation for later life. During this period the person is supposed to live a celibate life (Brahmacharya means celibacy). Grahasta (meaning householder) ashram is the stage of family life. It begins with marriage and proceeds to raising a family. It involves earning a living through the skills acquired during Brahmacharya ashram. Vanaprastha indicates the departure from material possessions. The person lives with the family, in society, but in a withdrawn manner. The man no longer takes part in the commercial activities and the woman leaves the running of the household to her daughter-in-law. People in this ashram play the role of mentors. The social activities become religious in nature. The final stage is Sanyasa or renunciation. The person leaves society to spend the remaining part of his or her life in meditation and the contemplation of God in solitude. This is a very severe step and once upon a time was the norm.


It was during the Brahmcharya ashram i.e when a person is not responsible for his family he use to live with Guru and learn the skills which s/he would use during the course of Grahasta ashram.


The concept of sahaj marg which uses name of Raja Yoga as selling strategy does not fit in any of these stages of life as postulated by early Aryans, Raja yoga is also a product of that time frame only, it was never expected from a householder to become obedient zombies of person who claims to be a guru, and abuses his own country and countrymen.



Sahaj Marg has a modern day Guru (who can be termed as psycho guru) claims that they have modified this system of guru-shishya and now a person living a life of householder can continue to follow principles of Bramcharya ashram, this psycho guru is P. Rajagopalachari, Chari claims that he can intercede with God for those who follow the philosophy of Sahaj Marg, and believe that after death, that person will be reaching a place he has named “Brighter World”. Condition for reaching this brighter world is unconditional obedience to him, and not to question any of his absurd statement and become a living dead in his hand, he has not proved his credentials as a good human being till now, but still asks people to believe in whatever statement he makes, no matter how absurd his view may be, as he claims himself to be the one who can take any person who celebrates his birthday to “brighter world”


Below I am presenting some of his statement, which will show how smartly Chari has been fooling people and manipulating them in name of spirituality. Any person, who by default does not asks questions about authenticity of a person claiming to have potential to intercede on behalf of others who follow him, can be fooled by the show of money and power game as demonstrated by people around him, and luxurious ranches around the globe.



However we have observed lately that many people have begun to question their involvement in this cult and are gradually over-coming the mind control of SRCM by their own will, and leading a happy normal life, leaving all the anxiety frustration and forced beliefs of sahaj marg behind.

Some of the unbelievable claims made by this Psycho Guru are as follows:-



1. Lalaji Maharaj, whose birth anniversary we are celebrating today has ordained–it was not merely an expression of his wishes–has ordained that abhyasis should marry amongst each other, so that in two or three generations we have an exploding Sahaj Marg population



Lalaji Died in 1931, when there was no trace of Sahaj Marg, and chari announced this claim in 2002, how can a person in his/her normal state of mind believe in this kind of absurdity? But still there are people following this cult of sahaj marg, can they be said to be in normal state of mind, this is the reason as why members of SRCM are called “Zombies”.



2. So what wonders can it do if this is on a global scale? That is why Sahaj Marg is performing marriages—no questions asked, except whether you are old enough to get married, and whether you are a man and a woman. Unlike the churches in the world, we don’t perform same-sex marriages. That is unnatural. God did not intend it to be thus



Chari claims that God did not intend same sex attraction!! What kind of God is Chari talking about? Do those who have attraction towards same sex are product of devil? Then God and devil have same power over humans isn’t it? Only a stupidest assumption will make a sense in explaining the will of God!!! Can a person who talks to Ghosts claim to explain “will of God?” I leave it on the wisdom of readers to decide if a person like Chari is talking to God or devil!



3. So in India today is there an honest man? It is doubtful. Is there a man of character? Perhaps. Are there selfish liars, cheats, daakus [dacoits], unfriendly, willing to kill for profit and pleasure? Yes. Every Indian is potentially that. If they see a profit they are willing to give up everything for it. Today in the newspaper there is an article of two people who kidnapped a boy of nine or ten years old, took him to a hospital in Cuddapah or somewhere, changed his sex, and are using him for prostitution—just now I read in the newspaper.




The kind of fantasies we have, explains to a great extend the kind of person we are, there has been no such incident anywhere in India ever as stated by Chari, this cocked up story of change of sex of a boy to a girl for sex is totally unbelievable, this shows up-to a great extend the mentality of this person P. Rajagopalachari, does this makes any sense to any person that anyone would kidnap a child take him to doctor who would perform a sex change operation and then the kidnappers would use that child as sex object? This is below human thinking and demonstrates the mind set of this person, who claims to be a spiritual person, to add to this P. Rajagopalachari claims that all Indian are potentially liar and cheat, well he may be true about himself and his gang, but this statement cannot be generalized for all Indians in one go…. How will Chari explain people like A.P.J Abdul Kalam? Army personals dying for the safety of their nation? Is Chari suggesting that Indian army is there to defend liars and cheats? Shame on you Mr. Chari, you are not even a good human being, how can you claim to be a spiritual person? Looking at your own country as a nation of liars and cheats is not the way of a good human.



4. And I pray to you, beloved Master, to grant us this privilege of rejoining you in the brighter world as soon as possible



This is a terrifying statement if we understand what he is really saying. Here it seems that Chari is suggesting that abhyasis should die as soon as possible so that they can goto brighter world, can a sane person take such kind of statements as outcome of a healthy happy mind? Again I leave it on the wisdom of readers, this is horrible to say the least.


5. In today’s world Sahaj Marg, as stated by Babuji Maharaj, is the easiest and the quickest way to the goal of liberation.


This is the most absurd statement of all, who has achieved liberation in sahaj marg since its conception? Can Chari produce a list of those who he thinks have achieved liberation by following sahaj marg? And also the time taken by those who have achieved this liberation? Again wisdom of readers is needed here to understand how Chari is fooling people in name of liberation and spirituality.


All the statements made by Chari can be proved to be irresponsible and stupid statement, here I have put forth only a few of such statements so that people infected by diseases of sahaj marg can realize what they are subjected to.

Thursday, December 25, 2008

Brighter World of Sahaj Marg

Zombies of sahaj marg believe that when a person dies, he can either go to brighter world or is sent to hell, (and no brighter world is not heaven!) unlike Hindu philosophy zombies of sahaj marg do not believe in theory of reincarnation , but they believe in doomsday which they call “bhuma” that is the “Day of Judgment”. bhuma is the day when God will take care of every humans deeds and punish or reward him according to his deeds, no-one knows when this so called “bhuma” will happen, but zombies of sahaj marg believe that it will come, at-least in known human history this day has not yet come, and there is no guarantee as when will this day come, but because zombies of sahaj marg think from their heart, so they believe that this day will come and anyone who is not part of sahaj marg will be punished by God and all those who are part of sahaj marg will be rewarded by God. This is the mental state in which these zombies live.

There is however, no explanation in sahaj marg as what will happen to people living in brighter world? are they going to stay in brighter world forever? or is it that they are also waiting for "bhuma"? Sahaj marg does not explains if concept of bhuma is applicable in brighter world or not?

This cult explains brighter world as a hypothetical place where so called elevated members of this cult go once they are dead, currently this place is occupied by Sulochna (wife of leader of this cult) Babuji (founder of this cult) Lalaji (the claimed founder of this cult), Swami Vivekananda, Gautam buddha, Lord Krishna and Jesus Christ. Only criteria to reach brighter world is to be obedient to the leader of this cult, do not question anything stated by the cult leader, follow the cult leader where-ever he goes and above all dedication towards the mission, those who give up their family for the sake of sahaj marg, a placed is reserved in brighter world for that person.

This is not enough, this brighter world is also a source of income for this cult, it is claimed that an anonymous French lady receives messages from brighter world, and these messages are sold to the members of this cult costing $ 250 per 600 messages.

A person who is not brainwashed by this cult, may get astonished by the stupidity exhibited by zombies of sahaj marg, who not only accept existence of brighter world but also buy these messages, how is this possible? How is it possible for normal humans to believe in such fallacies? Answer is:- members of sahaj marg are asked to “think from heart” (please don't laugh, this is true!!). Members of sahaj marg fail to understand that thinking process is done by brain and not by heart, and because this cult is scared of mind, (as they know very well that if a person thinks, he will for sure leave this cult immediately as sahaj marg is nothing more then foolishness) so the members of sahaj marg are asked not to think at all. Since this cult is highly manipulative, they never say directly that one must become stupid, instead they say “think from heart” and don’t use your mind. This is their way of keeping people stupid, who worship a criminal.


Here I would like to put forth a question for all those who are member of Shree Ram Chandra Mission, why is sahaj marg so against intelligence? Can members of this cult explain as who gave human intellect? Doesn’t it come from God? God has given us a tool to distinguish the right from the wrong. If we don’t use it and as the result follow the ways of perdition, who’s fault is it? As Galileo said, if God did not want us to use our brain, why he would give it to us?

We must acknowledge the divine origin of our intellect. Knowledge and reason come from God. Ignorance comes from non-God or Satan i.e people like Chari. Anytime we shut down our brain and believe in things that make no sense we distance ourselves from God and get closer to Satan.

Even though our intellect is limited but this is no reason to go against it. We are given a measuring tool to separate right from wrong. It is imperfect but this does not mean we should through it away and do without it.

If the concept of brighter world, those stupid messages from brighter world, and all of the gobblygoody theories of sahaj marg do not make any sense, isn’t this proof enough that the sahaj marg has got nothing to do with spirituality? Can stupidity be compared with spirituality?

Is it possible that by leaving one’s job, family and other social responsibility if one travels to various places only to celebrate chari’s birthday Chari can reserve a place in brighter world???? Is this not stupid? All a person needs to do to come out of mind control of sahaj marg is to start thinking, and reject the absurd philosophy of sahaj marg.

There is no place anywhere which goes by the name of brighter world nor anyone who die’s reaches that place, brighter world is simply a cocked up place by criminal minded Parthsarthi Rajagopalachari, only to make money. Stop being fool, start thinking and take care of your responsibilities, by serving Mr. Chari you are going no-where but only distancing yourself from your society.

Tuesday, December 23, 2008

Head or heart

One of the arguments presented by all cult apologist is one should follow heart and not there head, I have been wondering over this point for some time, and did a bit of thinking as well, so I decided to express my views about listening to the heart or following the head.

What I have observed is that heart is very misleading. How ?


What do you think of those who follow cults? Do they follow their brain? Of course not! They follow their hearts and because heart can be fooled and as the result they are also fooled. Because first we have to establish the path that we are taking is the right one and this can be done only by using our brain.

Even if I choose to follow my heart, why would I want to follow sahaj marg? This is a very ugly faith. It only attracts the criminals. Decent humans are disgusted by it. Are these zombies sure that they follow their heart? or is it fear? Are they not appalled by the violence and hate which has resulted out of sahaj marg? Sahaj Marg is a fear based cult. The ultimate argument that abhyasis present is fear of hell, and loosing place in brighter world.

As with heart, brain also has its limitation, but that is all we have. With an airplane we cannot travel to the moon. There is a limitation to the airplane. Beyond certain altitudes it just can’t go. Do we leave the plain in mid air to go to the moon without it? That would be quite foolish. No, we would try to build a different space ship to propel us to the moon. But still we would follow the same scientific principles and follow the same laws of nature. So yes there is a limitation to logics but it would be foolish to abandon it and embrace irrationality to find the truth. Even if we find other means to access the truth, like intuition or similar faculties they cannot be illogical.

Can anyone establish that their heart has never betrayed them? It has betrayed many people. The followers of David Koresh were betrayed by their hearts, the followers of Jim Jones, Heaven’s Gate or all other cults were/are betrayed by their hearts. How do we know we are not betrayed by our heart?

What about suicide bombers? Are they not victims of their faith? Is their heart not betraying them? If they used their brain, they would not have done this stupid thing. Killing innocent people to go to heaven? Is there anything more insane than that? They are following their hearts and not their brains. No matter how flawed our intellect may be, it is the only tool we have and it is far better equipped to see the truth than our feelings. The good news is that intellect and human knowledge are expanding and every day we can learn something new. Look at the product of the intellect. Technology and science are the products of intellect. They are not perfect but every day we invent new things. Are we to go and live in a cave just because technology and science are not perfect? And we assume that heart is perfect?

Intellect can fail also but there is a better chance to correct it. Intellect is corrigible. The more you learn the more you can rely on your intellect. It is not perfect but it is expanding and is far more reliable than feelings. Our senses say the Earth is flat. Our intellect says it is round. Which one is correct?

Science has its own limitation, and there are numerous natural phenomenons which are not explained by science, but this does not warrant accepting any nonsense just because science has no answers. I don’t know what is in Neptune; does this allow me to believe Neptune is populated by two headed creatures that fly by wiggling their nose? If we don’t know something, it means we don’t know! This is no excuse to invent fairytale and believe in absurdities.

So in essence we must never believe in anything without evidence. If someone claims that s/he has message from God, we must always ask for evidence, and please note, we are not testing God, or asking for evidence for God, but all we are saying is give us the evidence that this path is true, or this message is from God, I feel pity on mental condition of those who had spend 250 $ for buying messages from brighter world, did they asked for evidence that how come these messages are from brighter world? What is the proof that there is indeed a brighter world, and what is the proof that someone is sending messages from brighter world?

One of Shoko Asahara’s followers was Dr. Ikuo Hayashi, a renowned doctor. Following the orders of Asahara, he planted the toxic sarin gas in the subways of Tokyo causing the death of a dozen of people and life injuries to hundreds. Later he confessed that while sitting in the train, he looked at the woman sitting in front of him and said to himself that if he releases this toxic gas, for sure she will die. For a moment he thought he should not do it, but he fought back the thought and convinced himself that God knows best and he should not question the wisdom of Asahara. How could a brilliant scientist of world fame become so fooled? He wept in his trial and strived to find an answer to that question himself. Yet at the moment, he thought he must do whatever his guru says, that it is not up to him to doubt and question the wisdom of God and his representative on Earth. Isn't this exactly how zombies think? Dr. Hayashi is not an evil man. He had done discoveries in medicine. He and his wife, also a doctor, were genuinely good persons. They tried to find better ways to heal people and this was the reason they went after holistic medicine and meditation, which eventually led them to Asahara. These smart people fell prey to a con artist, surrendered their will and intelligence to him, lost their sense of right and wrong and committed murder. All Dr. Hayashi wanted to do was to help people. He ended killing people.

Ikuo Hayashi, a famous doctor who had done so much for medicine, became a terrorist because like these zombies of sahaj marg and like all other believers, including the terrorists, he did not dare to question the wisdom of God. What God? He believed Asahara is a messenger of God. Did he have any proof for that? No, he just followed his heart. These zombies of sahaj marg are doing the same. What proof is there that Chari is representative of God? First give me that proof. Once you accept someone blindly you fight back your own commonsense and say “I am content with the knowledge that God has seen a reason for this”. Have they established first that this path is actually the path to God? How? Is there anyone who has reached anywhere other in the land of misery and pain, where is this so called natural path leading to ? has anyone asked this question as what is the ultimate goal of sahaj marg ? and how do they intend to reach there ? is there anyone (ANYONE) in sahaj marg since 1945, who has reached the so called destination? Leader of this cult has become a criminal, so has numerous other followers of this cult, is this why one joins sahaj marg ? to become a terrorist ? It is better to follow Islam, to become a terrorist than to follow sahaj marg. Atleast they are good terrorists, and respect their family, and do not strike inside their own home, but these zombies of sahaj marg are worst, they strike in their own home, there cannot be anything more worst then sahaj marg. No other faith instigates so much hatred against ones own family spouse and children than sahaj marg.

These zombies of sahaj marg have fallen into the same trap that Dr. Hayashi fell. they believe without any evidence. If Hayashi was wrong, what is the guarantee that that Chari is right? Hayashi was a smart man and famous for his work. Eventually became a terrorist.


Hence in essence if you follow only your heart, probability of becoming a terrorist is more, and if you follow your brain, one cannot become a terrorist.

Saturday, December 20, 2008

How people join a cult

No-one joins a cult, people join a group which presents itself as a spiritual or political or social group, but if the group follows certain principals it eventually becomes a cult.


Take this picture as first example :-



Some see a young girl, some can see an old women.

And this is the problem with cultic thinking, people accept one fallacy and since they have became believers they accept any absurdity afterwards, and eventually become a zombie.

Everyone knows that Chari is a fraud, otherwise he would not have been fighting any case in court for ownership, everyone knows that chari is a convicted criminal, everyone knows that chari has restored to violence and other corrupt means to maintain his control over Shree Ram Chandra Mission, but still people taken him as spiritual person because they have been fooled ONCE, If the zombies of sahaj marg put themselves in shoe of those who have suffered unspeakable pain and sufferings beyond explanation, and change their paradigm and evaluate Chari and his acts under the light of logic and fairness, they will be able to see the old women and not only the young girl. All it needs is to step out once and see the larger picture, but this is not happening!!

Hence basically what it means is that once you give up your rational faculty and believe in an absurdity, you might as well believe in anything. Once you let yourself to be fooled, then you should be prepared to be fooled again and again because there is no end to foolishness.

Sahaj Marg can't be reformed, but it can be eradicated. It can't be molded, but it can be smashed. It is rigid, but brittle. That is why abhyasis can't tolerate criticism of it. To eradicate Sahaj Marg, all we have to do is tell the truth. It's that simple. This was not possible before, but with the help of the Internet, it is now. The insanity of this creed is so glaringly obvious, it boggles the mind. All it takes is to see the state of an abhyasi, his/her personal life, social life and professional life, all disturbed.

The truth about sahaj marg is out. It's here on this site. With truth and reason alone we can demolish this tall tower of lies. If you help spread the truth we can bring this house of cards down sooner than anyone can imagine. With truth, the decent abhyasis will leave Sahaj Marg and with each abhyasi who leaves, we gain a new soldier in our fight against psychological terrorism.

We must keep in mind, that if a message is from God, (Brighter World, God's will, path to God, representative of God etc etc etc..) it should not have any faults. If it has a single fault, then it is not from God. This cult suggests that one must view sahaj marg with "open mind", that is, view it un-critically, and this is the recipe for disaster.

What if a charlatan claims to be a prophet of God? How do we know this person is not lying if we don't try to see his faults? There have been many cults that have seduced many people, leading them to perdition. Just think of cults such and Aum Shinrikyo, whose followers, mindlessly believed in what their guru told them and released sarin gas in the subways of Tokyo, killing a dozen of innocent commuters and injuring hundreds of them for life. What about the cult of People's Temple whose members committed mass suicide in the jungles of Guyana after happily poisoning their own children? What about the cult of Heaven's Gate, Branch Davidian or hundreds of other cults whose followers believed and did not ask some basic questions? They did exactly what this cult suggests. They tried to be sincere and did not try to find faults in these cults. Can anyone question their sincerity? They proved their sincerity by sacrificing their lives. Can we question the sincerity of the suicide bombers? Sincerity alone, if not guided by reason and critical thinking can be deadly.

There is a wonderful expression, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
If someone claims to be a representative of God, we must not accept his claim unless all our questions are answered and we are satisfied that there are no holes in his claim. If there is one, he is not a messenger of God but a shameless liar, an impostor or a madman. God does not err and his religion must be logical.

So don't be shy. Try hard to find faults in the claims of prophet pretenders and believe only if you find none. Do not let them intimidate you by saying it is not up to you to test God. You are not testing God. You are testing their claims. If they are indeed messengers of God, they should be able to answer all your questions. If they threaten you with hell, leave them because they are charlatans and liars. This is the only way to find the truth, not by uncritically accepting any nonsense. Do not let anyone fool you with empty promises and bogus claims.

The message from God should come with the proof from God and that proof should satisfy our intellect and not insult it.

The reason we have so many faiths, religions, and sects, despite the fact that at most only one of them can be true, is that the followers don't question. They are eager to prove their sincerity and believe blindly without asking some important questions such as "what is the proof?" A simple and yet essential question! They believe, mislead by the feel-good factor and after being swayed by some logical fallacies.

Result of mindless obedience, unquestionable devotion to the cult leader:-

Wednesday, December 10, 2008

Divorces in Sahaj Marg

More information can be found at Surviving Sahaj Marg


Unbearable Pain

Forced Divorces, Dividing Families (Sahaj Marg's Spirtual approach towards families of its victim)

My note:- Problem is not because these divorces happened, problem is in not accepting the responsibility and correcting the issues pointed out by those who suffered, problem is in insensitivity towards the pain of those who are not part of the cult directly but are affected indirectly because of teachings of sahaj marg.

Sahaj marg states that one's material and spiritual needs are balanced simply and naturally.

This is the public face of this NATURAL PATH, called Sahaj Marg. Reality is however far far away from this, below is some of the testimonilas of people who have gone through this unspeakable unexplainable and unbearable pain, suffering and mental agony, all because of SPIRITUAL PROGRESS, these innocent people have unknowingly put their faith in a brainwashing, mind-controlling CULT.

Recently chari has announced that he has been successful in destroying 3 families. 3 of the marriages which were arranged by chari were broken down the same day it took place:-
increasingly marriages are getting troublesome. People get married here by the grace of my Guru, my Master, and they run into trouble. Some of them, fortunately only a few, the marriage is finished on the day of the marriage itself. So far we have had three cases. But it is a tragedy for me because, as Babuji said, even one drop of poison in a big vessel of milk means a big vessel full of poison. Here we don�t judge spiritual progress by success, we judge it by failure. And in that sense our marriages have failed too often for my comfort. Though my boys tell me, �Only three, saab [sir].� Should not have been even one.

Here comes the most harmful aspect of sahaj marg, the marriages arranged inside the cult is the most harmful aspect of sahaj marg which is demonstrated here, I will try to explain this concept little bit more, Indian society is one of the most stable societies in the world, there has been numerous attacks from foreign invaders who even ruled over India from time to time, but the basic infrastructure of Indian society has remained stable by and large over a period of 20,000 yrs of known history. The reason for this stability can be credited to stable marriages in India, Indians believe that union of two souls into one, culminates in marriage, and a through analysis of birth charts is done of both the bride and the groom before marriage, there is scientific reason behind this also, since astrology is not in the scope of this discussion hence I will keep it out.

This cult of sahaj marg is striking at the very foundation of stable society of India, by instigating divorces, a divorced women (and men also) mostly indulge in illicit activities for fulfillment of their natural needs; sahaj marg fosters such illicit activities by enhancing the number of divorced people in our society.

The above statement from chari explains the fact that he has made a joke of something which was foundation of our stable society, if a marriage is finished the same day it took place (according to chari he is successful in doing it 3 times till now) the sanity of marriage is destroyed here, marriage is not something which happens every alternate year, it is once in life time activity, chari has been instrumental in causing hawk in numerous families till now. By breaking marriages chari is basically striking at the foundation of our society, there by creating more and more venerable people, who can easily be manipulated fooled, used and abused by cunning creatures like chari.

The sole reason as why chari started marrying people inside the cult was to create more and more dependency on him, and his cult on the life�s of its victim. Marriage is very personal to every individual, and when chari intrudes in that domain also, there is almost no scope left for the victim to have an independent analytical mind, which can question the methodologies used by chari and his criminal gang to manipulate and milk people of not only their money but also peace of life.

Below are some of the testimonial of people who have suffered this unbareable pain of seperation from their life partner ONLY BECAUSE OF MANIPULATION AND CUNNINGNESS OF CHARI.

Michel Gilbert
The parents are divorced and the mother, a member of a sect, has custody of the children. Faced with this scenario quite often, justice hesitates between the need to protect children and to safeguard the freedom of belief

"At first I did not worry. Meditate They came to the house as a group. Children were not affected. I even tried, but it was not my thing. I treat with a certain irony. " Michel Gilbert then shared ten years of the existence of Frances, dentist, with whom he had two children, ages 5 and 2 and a half years.

The couple is in financial difficulty: it has more work and decided to become a father at home. Increasingly, his partner engages in frequent meditation and a group called Shri Ram Chandra Mission, which is based in Madras, India.

Its members engage in meditation sahaj marginal, inspired by the rajah yoga, according to the teaching of a master appointed Shri Ram Chadraji Maharaj, said Babuji.

The latter requires an absolute devotion to its fans and wants to "educate the masses and spread among them the art and science of yoga." For seven months, Michel sees this growing influence. In December 1998, the report Vivien class Shri Ram Chandra among the sects. 2 000 people were members. The father is concerned. In January 1999, the group makes him feel that it is undesirable. At the end of February, Franį¯Šse spoke of separation, made room apart. He realizes that it is preparing a trip to India for the anniversary of the master, and then she had an affair with another follower. On 29 June, Michel was hospitalized for an ulcer. It brings children in Spain. On August 15, Michel Gilbert attack the sect for child abduction. On Dec. 21, an order to entrust custody to the mother. Since then, he has been able to get to see them in a point-rencontre. He had no information about their address, their school. "When I see, my son is as off. I tried to get in touch with the sect in India: I had no response. "

Vincint

Original Post here

I married in 1968. My wife discovered yoga, it was interested in the boudhism and spirituality in general. All went marvelously well. we had 2 children, a girl and a boy. She started to contemplate that made just 30 years. I knew later that it was already Sahaj Marg. Enough quickly it spoke only about that. It stopped all these other activities. It spent its time with the other followers. It forgot our children who were very small. It tested of me entrainer with it. I am not especially attracted by their spirituality but I was interested in his Sahaj Marg. I read their books, I discussed with them. I even tested their meditation. I was with large a sitting with their large Chari guru. But that did not impassion me and I finished by very dropped. My wife was not content, it wanted that I make even more efforts. She reproached me for being materialist and not to have enough interest for the spiritual one… and then she went on a journey in India. She returned in anger against me. She had become tutor, i.e. whom she trained the new followers. She did not speak to me any more. She was unaware of me. Our life of couple did not exist any more! We ended up divorcing almost 10 years after its entry in this sect. Of course, it A had the guard of our 2 children who were almost banked-up beds at the time. They were very disturbed by our separation. They reproached me for having left. Today they are large. They have all the 2 joined the sect. It is their Chari guru who married them, with other followers obviously. And maintaining here that I am several times grandfather. My little children grow. Tomorrow they will be them also banked-up beds. And I do not want that they enter the sect. For this reason I reacted today after having been so a long time quiet. All his years spent, I put side my opinions to try to keep good relations with my children. It was not easy but I succeeded in not completely not cutting the bridges. Except that maintaining it is with the turn of my little childrens

Micheal

Wife thought it would be a good thing to feed our two sons insecticide if I decided to leave her. She decided to take some herself so that she might avoid the consequences. She decided to use her money to purchase curses from black magicians so that I would be haunted in the death of my family, cursed to the end of my days. She did not succeed in her attempt to wipe out my family with mosqito poison, but I contemplate often about the curses and their impact on me and the boys.

After over a decade of trying to find spirituality, career success and marital bliss, I thought it would be a good idea to pursue happiness without her, by seeking financial freedom and young women as a single dad, rather than persist in a household full of hate, resentment and child abuse. My thinking was that I would be a better dad if I truly pursued my dreams, than to stay bound to a woman who hated me, and everything about me, yet would not let go as she relished controlling what she hated. My thinking was that with the money we were about to make, she could take half, and go find happiness - as she clearly wasn't happy with me. I thought wrong. Happiness was not her thing. Controlling her world was. She found satisfaction in owning what she hated, and she hated a lot

Bernard P

The story of Bernard P. Is almost identical. After his divorce, he noted in his two boys 8 and 9 years behavior strange, a desire to conceal that they did not have before. They admit him while their mother frequent Shri Ram Chandra, a telling portrait of the guru throne at home. The father was informed, worried. Children him announce later that they must participate in a seminar group at Castle Augerans near Dole, in August 1999. Bernard P. Appealed to the judge in family matters to get custody of her children, or at least to prevent mother to be taken to the sect. The judge granted a ban on leaving the country, but considers that there is no urgency to change custody.

"The legal system is sufficient," says Philippe Lefant, Bar Chambury, which specializes in such cases, if the child is in danger, that is in permanent contact with the sect. It is possible to request the revocation of parental authority of a spouse wrongdoing before the high court. Otherwise, we may ask that the child whose follower has custody is not involved in its religious affairs. You can also obtain referral to the judge in family matters to redirect their education. But it is a decision unsatisfactory because extremely difficult to control: one can hardly do so by a bailiff, and it is valid only if the person referred is not prevented. Otherwise, it is easy to conceal everything. Almost always, I ask the prohibition on leaving the country for children when the sect has a registered office abroad. And I get regularly. "

The problem lies more in the attitude of judges. "The actions of this type are confronted with the fundamental principle of freedom of belief," says Philippe Lefant. Often my exercise restraint that my clients do not understand, just to emphasize that the child rather than the ideological aspect of the problem. "Justice can intervene only if health, the safety, morals or the education of the child are compromised, "says the chairman of the juvenile court of Versailles.

That leaves room for many inconsistencies. Thus, in 1993, a father divorced had obtained the withdrawal of custody of her children to the mother because she attended the Jehovah's Witnesses. "The practice of a sect particularly pregnante can only have an impact on the behavior of young children and thwart their free will," the court felt.

By contrast, that same year, Aim Lafarge, in the same situation, was dismissed by the court in Narbonne on the grounds that this would "allow individuals acting alone qualify sect any minority group within a religion or" a philosophy. This would lead to totalitarianism threatening the freedom of conscience of a minority. "

Don

Thanks for your comment... Since you don't know, you should not speak to that issue and stick to what you know...

We had lived together for 35 years and had forgiven one another all that time for our daily mistakes.

And we did all that for 35 years without being "Christians". Forgiveness was our strength. The LOVE was taken out of the relationship by Sahaj Marg so that "Forgiveness" was not possible anymore for the one caught in the CULT. That scheming was done by preceptors and other abhyasis and was not there before, and is not "by accident" but "by design". Read of others in Europe and in North America. We wanted to UNITE the world, not DIVIDE our families in the name of yet another RELIGION to a MALE GOD with OBEDIENCE as the LAW!!

To new abhyasis: Beware of "seminars" in other towns that become schemes and conspiracies to get the single abhyasis "together". Seminars are "match making events". Women with men, men with women... That is only one of the schemes that break up families. And watch your CHILDREN, the new target of SRCM(tm). These structures will attract all sorts of DEVIANTS and as other POWER structures, will create DEVIANTS!!

Then there is the MONEY!! SRCM targeted older women and "mental health" therapists (Psy's) at first and now is focussed on, and attracts the nationalist children of the wealthy who immigrate to our countries to attend university or to work, for fill their "organizational" positions and sucks more money out of our POOR families than those families can afford. Like all other "Pyramids" it attracts the gullible disempowered dreaming of, and wanting more POWER, and the "opportunists" who use the PYRAMID to increase their own POWER. Does the POWER TRICKLE DOWN as the theory claims? IT DIVIDES that is sure...inside and outside!!

IT AIN'T SPIRITUALITY but RELIGION and CULT..by their own criteria!!

To say that NOW, in our family, we have a "difference" is accurate, but that difference was created and cultivated by a NEW RELIGION or a Personality CULT of Businessmen that re-directs that LOVE that should remain in the family and among the members of that family. That LOVE was to go to "one another" and it was "STOLEN" as by a thief, and re-directed to the MASTER and the MISSION and the METHOD. There is a "METHOD" to this MADNESS that DIVIDES where ever it GOES...

Chari could before his death, encourage (or order) all his "DIVIDED" flock to UNITE with their FAMILIES!! But that would be SAINTLY and he ain't THAT!!

We have witnessed the same process in those families where one member (usually the woman) is ensnared in other religions or cults and the other partner (usually the man), does not "BELIEVE" in the "SCAM"...The Religion/Cult empowers and uses the FEMALE and divides the family. Look at the aboriginal population and Christianity. That population (the men) is now returning to their traditional "SPIRITUALITY" and still, the churches on the reserves are attended by a few old WOMEN. That Church still is in charge of the "many burials" that take place among the youth of our NATIVE communities.

IF gullible, naive or "disempowered" women did not "do the dirty work", or as Chari says and encourages in one of his books (to), "sell themselves" to those "RELIGIONS", they would not thrive.

Come on WOMEN, get up off your KNEES and support your families and your own SPIRITUALITY, not the RELIGIOUS and SPIRITUAL SCAMS of STRANGERS!!

WE are all tucked inside the ONE (God) where we LIVE!!

Chari, at his death, will have his "orgy" of EGO at his funeral...

Who will celebrate at the family funerals of the HUMBLE ONES HE DIVIDED? IS there not a KARMIC debt here? Will Sahaj Marg erase those SAMSKARAS... I think LIFE is JUST. That KARMA could be realized on VENUS, no doubt, which is where Chari thinks he is going after this LIFE!! Venus is a good place for those who are caught in an illusion. The Egyptians of 3 millenia ago would have gone to the SUN at least.

Babuji's stolen ring (with 9 planets arranged in 3 rows of 3) will not save him as without PLUTO, there are only 8 planets in our SOLAR system and that is the correct symetry. 4 planets of gas and 4 planets of crystal for an OCTAVE of consciousness so as to be free from the illusory attraction of our GALAXY and to go further than VENUS at the very least...

MAYBE BABUJI is wise after all...

4d-Don

Thierry

Thierry is a SRCM apologist, by his own testimonial, he got divorced due to Sahaj Marg, was rejected by his own parents, siblings and his own son, only because of Sahaj Marg. Here i would like to explain that Sahaj Marg transmission is an addiction like any drug addiction such as alcohol, cocaine and alike, like people who are slave to these addiction are rejected by society similarly people addicted to Sahaj Marg transmission are also rejected by society Thierry is one such example, who has been rejected socially for being part of poisonous sahaj marg.


hello to all

I allow myself to bring a comment to this very instructive exchange

I practice the spiritual path proposed in Sahaj marg for the past 20 years and I am very satisfied with my practice and the srcm(.) I think that the the problems of comprehension that we encounter is due to several fundamental differences(.)

I at the beginning of my practice encountered enormous difficulties
of freedom of worship(.) For example in Sahaj marg(,) even if it is not a prerequisite(,) it is strongly recommended not to drink alcohol and become vegetarian(.) when I was at my parents (home) I always had at my plate(,) a steak and a glass of wine served with my father telling me(,) I quote(:) "you're not a man(,) you do not drink" (.)

I had to fight for many years to make them admit that my choice of lifestyle was different and until the death of my father, he always dismissed me(.) if I resisted to not cut myself from my family it is out of duty and love for them(.)

my sisters and brothers have also criticized me several times and when I took the floor (spoke) they said that it was not coming from me(.) I also resisted cutting them off through tolerance(.)


It is well known that minorities frighten (people) because by not reacting in certain situations and behaviors like most people(,) the way we do (things) may seem odd(,) for example no longer taking pleasure in drinking alcohol "may surprise"(.)

it is certain that early in my practice I have certainly been too expressive in externalizing how I felt(.) I'm more internalized and seldom share the happiness and balance that meditation lavishes(.)

I was married for 10 years to someone who has never practiced meditation(.) (The) fear of her family before my differences forced me to divorce with a son who is a supporter of the srcm but does not want to meditate(.) It is his choice(,) having been mistreated myself because of my spiritual path(,) I leave him chose without interfering with his freedom of worship(.)

I was next cohabiting with a woman who practiced meditation with me for 2 years and then spent the remaining 5 years of our communal life criticizing me me and my spiritual master(.) I do not obliged her to follow me but I just asked for my freedom of worship(.) I also had to separate myself from her as the pressure from her became unbearable(.) I had(,) so as to please her(,) taken up eating meat again(,) in my attempt to not appear too "bizarre"(.)

Meditation regulates the mind and life seems so beautiful that of course it may seem strange to be happy(.)

I'm so so happy(,) so content in my skin(.) I live moments that are so intense and it is thanks to meditation(.) Our practice of meditation is designed to make us change our evolution and allows us to discover a new perception of the world (inside and outside) I allow myself this counsel ... leave us meditate(.) Do not criticize us in our practice(.) Accept us as we accept you(.)

Let us love one other with our differences(.) do not try and impose on us your choice and if some practitioners want to force you to become members(,) have them read this message(.) let us all leave one another our freedom to worship or not to worship(.) if people do not want meditate(,) it is their life choices and this must be respected(.)

Meditation is so subtle that the accession of the person must be voluntary or else it does not work(.)

thank you for taking the time to read me

thierry

 
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