How P. Rajagopalachari manipulates people

P. Rajagopalachari has been fooling people for quite sometime now, he asks his victim for complete surrender to himself, this he asks by manipulation and distorting stories from Indian Mythology, he has used story of Parashuram many time to make his victims obedient to himself to the point that they should kill anyone he asks them to kill, and should not even think about what he has ordered.


Here is what P. Rajagopalachari says:-


One thing that our people must understand is, in obedience there is no place for thought. You are not to think whether this is to be obeyed or not. The Guru orders, you do it. The famous example in our mythology is Parashuram. When he said he was devoted and loved his father, his father said, "Will you do what I tell you?" He said yes. He said, "Cut off your mother's head." Chichick. And the head came off. Mother's head! - obedience. Of course, then the father said, "I am pleased with you. Ask for a boon." He said, "I want my mother alive again." And the mother came alive again.

http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/090104_Chennai.jsp


Chari wants his victims to become absolute idiots, because as i have stated my times an intelligent person is bound to ask "WHY?" Chari says that in obedience there is no place for thought. You are not to think whether this is to be obeyed or not. The Guru orders, you do it.

Kindly note he is saying "The Guru orders, you do it" and then he presents a story from Indian Mythology about Parashurama. People who do not think will accept this story without questioning, as Chari has already stated that one must not think, simply OBEY.

Actual story of Parashuram is somewhat different, Parashurama did not killed his mother by obeying his Guru, but did so because his FATHER (not guru) asked him to do so...

If we follow the story presented by P. Rajagopalachari, the question aries:- when Parashuram obeyed his father, why should abhyasis obey their Guru and not their father? I am sure, a father is more loving then Guru can be in todays time.

More-so Parashurama was not present in 21st century, nor in 20th century nor in 19th or 18th century. Parashurama was present before Shree Ram of ayodhya took birth.

And there is no sure time line available in todays historical records about exact date of birth of Lord Ram. It is estimated that Lord Ram took birth on 10 January 5114 B.C i.e thousands of year back.

By distorting stories from Indian Mythology Chari is giving bad name to hindu religion as well.

Can P. Rajagopalachari establish himself as a person who can bring back a dead? if he can do that then if he asks someone to kill anyone else, it makes sense, but if Chari does not have power to bring back a dead to life, how in the world can he present such a story???


We must also know the actual story, as why Parashurams father asked him to kill his own mother?

Parashurams father was Jamadagni and his mothers name was Renuka

The story is:-


Renuka, the devoted wife of Jamadagni, had to get the Ganga water, for her husband's fire worship, and accordingly, proceeded to the river with a pot. The Ganga was flowing majestically. At that time a 'Gandharva' (celestial being) named Chitraratha was enjoying a festive bath and was engaged in frolic with his wives. Renuka was watching these activities for some time.

She had been somewhat mesmerized and after a while awakened herself realizing
her duty to carry the pot of water to her husband. She rushed back to the hermitage.
Jamadagni was a sage possessing supreme vision. He visualized
the reason for his wife's delayed arrival. He was angered at her and took umbrage
at her becoming 'impure' by witnessing Chitraratha with unbecoming interest. He called out his sons and ordered them to kill her. The children were shocked; they could not believe their own ears. How can they kill their own mother? They stood transfixed.

Jamadagni was now furious, seeing that his sons were not obeying him. Parashurama
returned after a while, and Jamadagni asked his son to kill his mother and also
the disobedient brothers.

Parashurama did not hesitate even for a moment. Readily he raised his axe, chopped off his mother's head and later killed his brothers. As he bowed before his father in reverence, the latter's anger subsided. However, five persons had been killed.

Jamadagni said: My son, your devotion to your father has pleased me. Tell me what is your desire and I shall fulfill it. Parashurama replied, O father, nothing satisfies me more than fulfilling your desire. If you want to grant me boons, please forgive my mother and brothers for their disobedience and kindly bring them back to life.As you wish, said Jamadagni. The dead rose to life and prostrated before the sage.

The ashram's rituals were resumed unhindered. Thus Parashurama saved his mother
and brothers.

http://www.webonautics.com/mythology/avataar_parashurama3.html

Parashurama was not obedient to his Guru but to his father, he knew that his mother had done wrong and his brothers also did wrong, he did not killed his mother and brother without thinking, he knew that they did a mistake and asked his father to forgive them.

His father forgave them, Chari will make a new story out of this and claim that all father's who's children are abhyasis should be obedient to their children and state the same story.... Because he has already demanded that one must not think only OBEY!!

I hope people will verify what Chari says because he has established himself as a big manipulator. Because of manipulation of Sahaj marg numerous families have been destroyed till now, and if sahaj marg is not eradicated, many more families will be destroyed.

We need to save our family from Cults and the only way to be safe is to think, question and do not rest till you have found the answer.

Dear victims of sahaj marg, start thinking, your leader is a dangerous person, be-aware of his tactics and do not fall in traps of sahaj marg.

Obedience and intelligence

A person obeys another person because he is influenced by a stronger power, whether it being wealth, intellect, experience, or a higher position. Human beings have been obeying and disobeying since the beginning. They have been thought that obedience is a virtue and disobedience a vice, but this is not true all the time. The person obeying authority must be able to recognize irrational and rational authority, because not being able to do so can become dangerous. When people become a part of a cult or a gang it is usually at a vulnerable time when they are recruited and they were not able to recognize signs needed to make a rational decision. These people become followers to leaders with narcissistic personalities who believe they are some sort of messiah that will make the world a better place.


Obedience is simple, obedience needs no intelligence, all machines are obedient, there is nothing like an disobedient machine, intelligence is human, if anyone is asking for a complete obedience, that person in essence is asking you to become a machine, which s/he can use for his own selfish motive. When a person is obedient, he thinks he is not responsible for the act, take the case of Nazi’s after the second world war, in the Nuremberg trials, all the Adolf Hitler’s top men simply said they were not responsible, they were simply following orders and don’t feel guilty of the crimes they committed, this is what sahaj marg intends to do with its victim, make them machines, and make them commit crime against humanity, and make them feel, they are not responsible, however no court of law, which is based on reasoning will accept their argument and it is them who will be punished, as a reference take the case of Ikuo Hayashi. A perfect example of human converted into an obedient machine by a claimed spiritual guru.


Obedience has a simplicity, disobedience needs a higher order of intelligence, any idiot can be obedient, infect only idiots can be obedient. The person of intelligence is bound to ask WHY? – “Why am I suppose to do it?” and “unless I know the reason and consequence of it, I am not going to involve in it!” An intelligent person is responsible.

Intelligence is directly proportional to responsibility.


Responsibility is not a game, it is one of the most authentic ways of living, , but it does not mean disobedience for the sake of disobedience, that would be idiotic too, we must use our own intelligence, and when we use our own intelligence we are responsible and grow mature, and hence even though we accept opinion of others but we have agreed to the opinion and that is not obedience but responsibility.


Just to go against obedience is not going to move intelligence higher; it remains on the same plane. Disobedience does not mean saying an absolute no in every situation, it simply means deciding whether to do it or not, and it is defiantly not the question of hating the person seeking obedience or hating to be told what to do, it is just being responsible.


The way of disobedience is not stagnant, just going against every order and feeling anger and hate and revenge towards the person. The way of disobedience is a way of great inteliigence. So it is not ultimately obedience or disobedience. Reduce the basic facts, its simply a question of intelligence—behave intelligently.


It is easy to throw responsibility, If Adolf Hitler had been victorious, Martin Heidegger would have said, he is victorious because he followed my philosophy, Martin Heidegger was a great intellectual as compared to Hitler, Hitler was just a retarded person, but powerful and we follow the powerful. We are brought up to follow the powerful, the teacher, the priest, the God, essentially whoever has the power is right. “might is right” and you have to follow it, it is simple because it needs no intelligence.


Now there are few questions here, can a totally obedient person be intelligent? From the points presented above, certainly not, and here comes the next question, answer to which will be a nail in the coffin of Sahaj Marg.

Can an idiot realize the ultimate and lead others to the path to the ultimate? And answer is certainly NO.

So as I have said time and again, people in sahaj marg are idiots because they have lost the power to use their intelligence as they have become absolutly obedient, hence they cannot utilize their own wisdom and realize what is known as ultimate truth, to realize the truth we must be intelligent enough. And an intelligent person cannot be part of sahaj marg. Sahaj marg and intelligence are anonyms of each other. Sahaj Marg is path of foolishness and only foolish people follow it. Those who disagree are welcome to prove otherwise.


This is what Sahaj Marg is all about
http://www.sahajmarg.org/smrti/education/publications/salfeatures/series4/obedience/obedience2.html


It is of course necessary that a disciple obeys the Master implicitly. The great Indian mystic Kabir is stated to have said that while a disciple should not take alcoholic drinks, nevertheless, if the Master orders a disciple to drink, the disciple should not merely drink but should drown himself in a vat of wine so that the liquor should pour into him through every pore of the body. This emphasises the degree of obedience that is called for. By obedience and by following the Master's guidance, not only in spiritual sadhana but in all aspects of one's life, one comes to realise that the Master is not just a Master of one's spiritual life but is an all-pervasive Master with franchise over the sum total of one's human functions. The development of this attitude strengthens one's attachment to the Master and begins to develop in the disciple a feeling of total dependence on the Master.


Parthsarthi Rajagopalachari is a fake guru who is in a habit of fooling people by taking name of some well known mystique's as in above case, he has used the name of Kabir and has given a wage example for obedience for himself, Kabir on the other hand has never made any such comment, on the contrary Kabir is said to have two guru's The thesis that he had two gurus, Ramanand and Shekh Taqqi, provides an optimism that he was not prone to any one orthodox set of beliefs

Parthsarthi in essence is a fake guru, and uses names of enlighten mystique's of past to substantiate his position as a Guru. Is there anything more worst then this?

This is what Sahaj Marg is. Obedience to a Psychopath.