The group run's as "Shree Ram Chandra Mission" which teaches a technique called "Sahaj Marg" the group is not very popular currently has approximately 200,000 worshipper across the globe, but the disturbing aspect here is, the group has presence in most of the countries. However the groups activities has led to its inclusion in list of "harmful sect" in 1995 list of cults in a french government report, ( [www.cftf.com] ) and again in 2003 report of "miviludes" (http://www.miviludes.org/IMG/pdf/Report_MIVILUDES_2003.pdf refer footnote on page 81) The cult of sahaj marg was started in 1945 by a person named Ramchandra (aka Babuji 1899-1983) who worked as a typist in divisional court of a small town of Shahjahanpur Uttar Pradesh India, The cult claims that its founder is Ramchandra (same name as that of founder1873-1931) aka "Lalaji". These two people are differentiated on the basis of the town they belonged, Founder of the cult was from Shahjahanpur (hence called Ramchandra of Shahjahnpur) and claimed founder was from Fatehpur Uttar Pradesh India, (hence called Ranchandra of Fatehpur).
The group claims its founder as "Lalaji" on basis of a dream which the founder had in 1945, in which he sow "Lalaji" instructing him to start Sahaj Marg, this dream appeared 13 years after death of "Lalaji".
The group was initially restricted within India, with small following in few states, during the life span of the founder it was stated that group follows philosophy of Islam in general and Sufi concepts in specific, following Sufi practices of Transmission,( [naqshmumraif.googlepages.com] ) un-conditional love and devotion towards Master, and absolute dedication towards the Mission, Later however, the teachings which principally remained same were advertised as Hindu concept in general and Raja Yoga in specific, it is understood that this U-turn from Islam to Hindu was mainly due to failure of the group to reach people in name of Islam. The group went to Europe and other countries first time in 1973.
After death of founder in 1983, dispute to control the mission arose and many sub-factions came into existence, all claiming to preach teachings of founder, of all the groups which were operating independently one is run by family members of founder(Umesh Chandra Saxena/Navneet Kumar Saxena), other is run by one of founder's close disciple and his son (K.C Narayana), and the most harmful one is run by an ex-businessmen and one of the follower of founder named Parthasarthi Rajagopalachari also known as "Chariji".
The one run by Chariji has re-registered the society and the group in USA in 1997, and arranges marriages of its members inside the group, mainly the marriages are focused on getting Indian women of the group married to people of western origin, under disguise of spiritual marriages, this particular group is also involved in absolute brainwashing of its victims and forcing them to do free labor and also sells costly books (costing more then $250).
This group maintains absolute control over its victims by asking them make note of every thoughts which happen to them in a diary and submit that diary to his/her preceptor, in essence these preceptors which are appointed the leader of this cult manage life the victim, there has been many cases of sexual abuse reported in Indian media, by preceptors and the leader himself. This group as all other cults encourages its members not to get married out side the group and those who do get married outside are asked to make sure that spouse and his/her family is also taken into the cult, incase the family and/or spouse opposes to emotional manipulation by the members of the group, the group has clear policy, get divorced / discontinue relation with those who do not believe the unbelievable things proposed by this group.
Some of the absurd hypothesis proposed by this group is summarized below for reference:-
1. The group claims that there is a place they call "Brighter World" where elevated souls of this cult go after they die.
2. The group claims that there is a French lady, who receives messages from BRIGHTER WORLD from departed souls of this cult, (these messages are sold at a price of $250 per 600 messages).
3. The group claims that leader of the cult transmits divine energy into the heart of its members via appointed preceptors.
4. The group claims that it is divine organization and its leader is divine.
5. The group claims that anyone who does not adhere to the principles laid by the cult are "enemies of spirituality"
6. The group claims it arranges divine marriages, and such marriages are blessed by divine power. (However numerous cases of divorce has been reported, in 3 such cases marriages have ended up the same day they took place) list of such divorces and other forced divorces can be found at [www.geocities.com]
7. The group claims that it is ONLY through practice of Sahaj Marg can one reach salvation
8. The group claims that people from any religion can become member of Sahaj Marg, however the leader claims that “All religions are divisive, and Sahaj Marg can unite humanity.
9. The group asks its members not to be attached with anything material, however the leader of the group is fighting various court battles for control property, land and bank accounts of the founder. (http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/chejudis.asp case type Appeal (Civil) case number 6619 year 2000)
10. The group claims that it preaches love and peace, however the leader himself has been convicted in 1987 for spreading violence, family member's of the founder have appealed to the president of India for their safety as the group and its brainwashed members have attacked them violently (proof's about the police report and newspaper clipping are available at [www.freedom2think.org]
When we read this, we get astonished as how is it possible that a sane person believes such unbelievable things? Answer to this can be understood in the fact that group is highly manipulative in nature, on surface it claims that its practices are useful for normal householders, what it hides is, one of the main conditions of this group is absolute obedience and absolute devotion to the leader of the group, how can a person be 100% devoted to family and at the same time 100% dedicated for the mission? it is like asking a person to be present at two different place at the same time, but still there are people who follow such absurdity, because they have accepted one fallacy (that the group is ONLY group which is divine) and since they have became believers they can accept any absurdity afterward, the logic is flawless. Once they give up their rational faculty and believe in an absurdity, they might as well believe in anything. Once they let themselves to be fooled, then they are fooled again and again because there is no end to foolishness.
What the group does not disclose is that the leader of this cult has a criminal background and has recently been charge-sheeted in several criminal cases, detailed information about this groups activities can be found at blogs and websites of ex-members and family members of those who were affected directly or indirectly by teachings of this cult, below is the list of such websites and blogs.
1. List of criminal cases and fraudulent activities by the leader of the cult is listed at [www.freedom2think.org]
2. Exposing lies and manipulative tactics of this cult is listed on ex-members blog [4d-don.blogspot.com]
3. Ex-preceptor and one time head of cults affair in United states blog is here [innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com]
4. Ex-member and discussion blog in French [pourquevivelesahajmarg.blogspot.com]
5. Blog of zonal-in-charge of Netherlands (member for 12 years) [pitfallsofspirituality.blogspot.com]
Shashwat Pandey
Saturday, October 15, 2011
Friday, April 23, 2010
Sahaj Marg of Swami Nityananda
Ok, there is a huge similarity between Nityananda Dhyanapeetam Ashram and Sahaj Marg Ashram, in a recent report published in Indian media, their ashram in Bangalore was used for some sexual tantric activity, the report published in times of india is as follows:-
Godman's flock signed 'sex pacts'
BANGALORE: Nudity, sexual activity, and physical intimacy were part of the “learning and practice of ancient tantrik secrets’’ at Dhyanapeetam Ashram of controversial godman Swami Nityananda at Bidadi, near Bangalore. Nityananda was caught on camera during an alleged sex romp with an actress last month.
Bizarrely, those who volunteered for the programmes were made to sign an agreement prohibiting them from disclosing any of these details or taking legal recourse after practising “ancient tantrik secrets’’. The programme is called ‘Learning from the Master Program’.
The "non-disclosure agreements" were part of the documents seized by CID during raids on the ashram, where they seized computer hard disks, laptops and mobiles.
One clause of the agreement, accessed by TOI, states: “Volunteer understands that the Program may involve the learning and practice of ancient tantric secrets associated with male and female ecstasy, including the use of sexual energy for increased intimacy/spiritual connection, pleasure, harmony and freedom. Volunteer understands that these activities could be physically and mentally challenging, and may involve nudity, access to visual images, graphic visual depictions, and descriptions of nudity and sexual activity, close physical proximity and intimacy, verbal and written descriptions and audio sounds of a sexually oriented, and erotic nature, etc."
It further says: "By reading and signing this addendum, Volunteer irrevocably acknowledges that he/she is voluntarily giving his unconditional acceptance of such activities and discharges the Leader and the Foundation, and anyone else not specifically mentioned here but directly or indirectly involved in the organization, management or conduct of any such programs from any liability, direct or indirect, arising from such activities."
A CID official said most of those who enrolled for this programme were women, and 90% were from Tamil Nadu. CID sleuths had watched a CD with more than 35 video clippings of Nityananda in compromising positions with at least five women.
Now exactly similar report was published about sahaj marg in the year 2001 published in The Pioneer News paper published from India, the report was/is as follows:-
The Original Sin
This is a story that defies all grades of imagination, of right, of wrong of possibilities and situations. It is a story of woman who has grown up on incest with the full support of her family, who has serviced an 80 years old guru at the tender age of all, who has slept with her father and brother before the very eyes of her mother and sisters, Who has borne the children of her father and then passed them off as her husband's off springs. This is also the story of a woman who, at 35, has risen above the opiated existence of sex, sleaze and incest only to save her daughter from the same fate that she lived through. As the bizarre case awaits its second hearing after being reopened on a year's persistence by a hounded family, JITENDRA VERMA recounts the story which details life's unholy twists and turns. Back in the Pooja room, the family was ready for the ritual. Their guru's pooja hung proudly on the wall and the family was in full attendance Pragya's grand father, father, mother, brother and two sisters all without a stitch of clothing on their stark naked bodies. "Hey nath, tu hi ek maatra dhyey hain, hamari ekshahyen, hamari winti mein bandhak hain". The nude poojas, she recalls, were followed by group sex in which all family members had intercourse with each other. My grandfather had it with my mother and my brother was with my sisters and father and vice verse, she tells you rather stoically. For your benefit her husband adds that the expression lessness is the result of years of being doped by the family which, he explains, is part of the closed religious cult known as the sahajmargi. In short, sahajmargi is an atheist cult which does not believe in any kind of familial ties., "its only religion being open sex". There are no brothers, sisters, father or mother. All human beings are same. I was told again and again. She says. Brainwashed with this potent logic day in and they out, Pragya and scores of other girls, including her two sisters and five cousins were donated to the ashram. Pragya still remembers the day of initiation when she was taken to a separate room in the ashram by 30-yearold abhyasani (disciple) Brij Bala, Thakur. She gave me some white tablets to consume and smeared my private parts with some kind of paste, says Pragya, then, she was taken to guru Ramchander's room where she was disrobed and initiated into a system which proved to be her nemesis. The Guru sex with me and I was later told that I had been married to the great man. Says pragya...
This is what spirituality of these fake Godman's leads to, we need to be on the lookout for loopholes when we are getting involved in any such group, we would not know when they have brainwashed us and have begun using us.
Be very very careful, unfortunately if you are trapped and want to get out of sahaj marg, kindly read our article on Leaving Sahaj Marg
Godman's flock signed 'sex pacts'
BANGALORE: Nudity, sexual activity, and physical intimacy were part of the “learning and practice of ancient tantrik secrets’’ at Dhyanapeetam Ashram of controversial godman Swami Nityananda at Bidadi, near Bangalore. Nityananda was caught on camera during an alleged sex romp with an actress last month.
Bizarrely, those who volunteered for the programmes were made to sign an agreement prohibiting them from disclosing any of these details or taking legal recourse after practising “ancient tantrik secrets’’. The programme is called ‘Learning from the Master Program’.
The "non-disclosure agreements" were part of the documents seized by CID during raids on the ashram, where they seized computer hard disks, laptops and mobiles.
One clause of the agreement, accessed by TOI, states: “Volunteer understands that the Program may involve the learning and practice of ancient tantric secrets associated with male and female ecstasy, including the use of sexual energy for increased intimacy/spiritual connection, pleasure, harmony and freedom. Volunteer understands that these activities could be physically and mentally challenging, and may involve nudity, access to visual images, graphic visual depictions, and descriptions of nudity and sexual activity, close physical proximity and intimacy, verbal and written descriptions and audio sounds of a sexually oriented, and erotic nature, etc."
It further says: "By reading and signing this addendum, Volunteer irrevocably acknowledges that he/she is voluntarily giving his unconditional acceptance of such activities and discharges the Leader and the Foundation, and anyone else not specifically mentioned here but directly or indirectly involved in the organization, management or conduct of any such programs from any liability, direct or indirect, arising from such activities."
A CID official said most of those who enrolled for this programme were women, and 90% were from Tamil Nadu. CID sleuths had watched a CD with more than 35 video clippings of Nityananda in compromising positions with at least five women.
Now exactly similar report was published about sahaj marg in the year 2001 published in The Pioneer News paper published from India, the report was/is as follows:-
The Original Sin
This is a story that defies all grades of imagination, of right, of wrong of possibilities and situations. It is a story of woman who has grown up on incest with the full support of her family, who has serviced an 80 years old guru at the tender age of all, who has slept with her father and brother before the very eyes of her mother and sisters, Who has borne the children of her father and then passed them off as her husband's off springs. This is also the story of a woman who, at 35, has risen above the opiated existence of sex, sleaze and incest only to save her daughter from the same fate that she lived through. As the bizarre case awaits its second hearing after being reopened on a year's persistence by a hounded family, JITENDRA VERMA recounts the story which details life's unholy twists and turns. Back in the Pooja room, the family was ready for the ritual. Their guru's pooja hung proudly on the wall and the family was in full attendance Pragya's grand father, father, mother, brother and two sisters all without a stitch of clothing on their stark naked bodies. "Hey nath, tu hi ek maatra dhyey hain, hamari ekshahyen, hamari winti mein bandhak hain". The nude poojas, she recalls, were followed by group sex in which all family members had intercourse with each other. My grandfather had it with my mother and my brother was with my sisters and father and vice verse, she tells you rather stoically. For your benefit her husband adds that the expression lessness is the result of years of being doped by the family which, he explains, is part of the closed religious cult known as the sahajmargi. In short, sahajmargi is an atheist cult which does not believe in any kind of familial ties., "its only religion being open sex". There are no brothers, sisters, father or mother. All human beings are same. I was told again and again. She says. Brainwashed with this potent logic day in and they out, Pragya and scores of other girls, including her two sisters and five cousins were donated to the ashram. Pragya still remembers the day of initiation when she was taken to a separate room in the ashram by 30-yearold abhyasani (disciple) Brij Bala, Thakur. She gave me some white tablets to consume and smeared my private parts with some kind of paste, says Pragya, then, she was taken to guru Ramchander's room where she was disrobed and initiated into a system which proved to be her nemesis. The Guru sex with me and I was later told that I had been married to the great man. Says pragya...
This is what spirituality of these fake Godman's leads to, we need to be on the lookout for loopholes when we are getting involved in any such group, we would not know when they have brainwashed us and have begun using us.
Be very very careful, unfortunately if you are trapped and want to get out of sahaj marg, kindly read our article on Leaving Sahaj Marg
Monday, February 22, 2010
Sahaj Marg U turn
Over a period of time it seems the business-men running the sahaj marg and shri ram chandra mission company have lost sight of what the agenda was to begin with.
A glaring example of this is evident in the recent announcement made by their CEO Mr. P Rajagopalachari.
Mr. P Rajagopalachari has announced that it is beyond the scope of sahaj marg to erase samskara and one has to pay for its deeds, here is what he is saying:-
So, you see, you people better understand that nothing will change in your physical life, material life, except it be in your samskara. A poor man will become rich, if it is in his samskara. A rich man will become poor, if it is in his samskara. A healthy man will become sick. A sick man may become healthy, all subject to your samskaras. Unless you understand this clearly, every one of you is in danger of leaving this Mission sometime or the other when something which you don’t want to happen, happens. People will die. When people are born, they will die. That which comes must go. That which is born, must die. That is the law. Even the avatars died. You know how Lord Krishna died — by an arrow in his foot. You know how Lord Rama died — he entered the Sarayu and went away
http://www.sahajmarg.org/literature/online/speeches/understanding-sahaj-marg
This statement is published on their website under article "Understanding Sahaj Marg"
This understanding of sahaj marg however is quite different from what is propagated to new recruits, a person who is new to sahaj marg is promised that his/her Samskara's will be removed if they become obedient to these businessmen...
Here is what they explain in the FAQ section of their website:-
Sahaj Marg believes that it is crucial for a spiritual system to offer a solution for the accumulation of samskaras, which appear as coverings around the human soul. Through the combination of meditation and cleaning practices, we have the opportunity to live and act in the present moment, gradually becoming unencumbered from the thoughts, worries and emotions that color our lives.
http://srcm.org/welcome/faq.jsp#faq8
And while explaining what is samskara in their website they claim that these impression from one soul are removed by practice of sahaj marg read this:-
The Sahaj Marg practice offers a method whereby our samskaras are dissolved and removed, opening the way for inner expansion and freedom from the weight of these impressions. This cleaning process leaves us with a feeling of lightness, as if more space has been created inside us for the Divine
http://www.sahajmarg.org/sm/practice/samskara
Now sir may I ask how, when and where did sahaj marg failed to dissolve samskara of their adherents?
This disclosure that sahaj marg cannot remove samskara is based on the fear that people are now leaving sahaj marg because they realize that they have been fooled in this mission, When the group promised them that their samskara will be dissolved and after spending good amount of time they find that it is having reverse impact on them and they are degrading from human to zombies they will leave...
And this is precisely what is happening, people are leaving sahaj marg because it has failed to deliver what it has promised and it was foolishness of those who got involved in this cult to start with thinking that their samskara's will be removed if they become a zombie... this is impossible, and this truth has now come out in public domain, now no face saving mechanism will save their lies.
If we observe the life of a abhyasis we will find that almost all of them are having marital issues and issues in adjusting in society and they feel getting divorced and breaking off relations will help them somehow... they are mistaken and will have to learn the truth the hard way, lies cannot remain hiding for long, and when it comes out.. it brings only embarrassment, same as what these cult members are facing.
Evil comes in various forms, most dangerous one is that form when it hides behind the viel of virtue, sahaj marg is one such evil which is hiding behind vial of spirituality.
Sooner you realize better for your life.
A glaring example of this is evident in the recent announcement made by their CEO Mr. P Rajagopalachari.
Mr. P Rajagopalachari has announced that it is beyond the scope of sahaj marg to erase samskara and one has to pay for its deeds, here is what he is saying:-
So, you see, you people better understand that nothing will change in your physical life, material life, except it be in your samskara. A poor man will become rich, if it is in his samskara. A rich man will become poor, if it is in his samskara. A healthy man will become sick. A sick man may become healthy, all subject to your samskaras. Unless you understand this clearly, every one of you is in danger of leaving this Mission sometime or the other when something which you don’t want to happen, happens. People will die. When people are born, they will die. That which comes must go. That which is born, must die. That is the law. Even the avatars died. You know how Lord Krishna died — by an arrow in his foot. You know how Lord Rama died — he entered the Sarayu and went away
http://www.sahajmarg.org/literature/online/speeches/understanding-sahaj-marg
This statement is published on their website under article "Understanding Sahaj Marg"
This understanding of sahaj marg however is quite different from what is propagated to new recruits, a person who is new to sahaj marg is promised that his/her Samskara's will be removed if they become obedient to these businessmen...
Here is what they explain in the FAQ section of their website:-
Sahaj Marg believes that it is crucial for a spiritual system to offer a solution for the accumulation of samskaras, which appear as coverings around the human soul. Through the combination of meditation and cleaning practices, we have the opportunity to live and act in the present moment, gradually becoming unencumbered from the thoughts, worries and emotions that color our lives.
http://srcm.org/welcome/faq.jsp#faq8
And while explaining what is samskara in their website they claim that these impression from one soul are removed by practice of sahaj marg read this:-
The Sahaj Marg practice offers a method whereby our samskaras are dissolved and removed, opening the way for inner expansion and freedom from the weight of these impressions. This cleaning process leaves us with a feeling of lightness, as if more space has been created inside us for the Divine
http://www.sahajmarg.org/sm/practice/samskara
Now sir may I ask how, when and where did sahaj marg failed to dissolve samskara of their adherents?
This disclosure that sahaj marg cannot remove samskara is based on the fear that people are now leaving sahaj marg because they realize that they have been fooled in this mission, When the group promised them that their samskara will be dissolved and after spending good amount of time they find that it is having reverse impact on them and they are degrading from human to zombies they will leave...
And this is precisely what is happening, people are leaving sahaj marg because it has failed to deliver what it has promised and it was foolishness of those who got involved in this cult to start with thinking that their samskara's will be removed if they become a zombie... this is impossible, and this truth has now come out in public domain, now no face saving mechanism will save their lies.
If we observe the life of a abhyasis we will find that almost all of them are having marital issues and issues in adjusting in society and they feel getting divorced and breaking off relations will help them somehow... they are mistaken and will have to learn the truth the hard way, lies cannot remain hiding for long, and when it comes out.. it brings only embarrassment, same as what these cult members are facing.
Evil comes in various forms, most dangerous one is that form when it hides behind the viel of virtue, sahaj marg is one such evil which is hiding behind vial of spirituality.
Sooner you realize better for your life.
Tuesday, January 05, 2010
Fake currency in Sahaj Marg
In the recent past, few spiritual groups from India are in media view for all the wrong reasons. First one is that of Aasaram bapu, he is charged with attempted murder and various other similar charges, other one is Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Just a few days back (30th Dec. 2009 to be precise) two foreign national were held by Chennai police for overstaying their visa period and possessing fake currency notes.
Kindly refer to news article published Deccan Chronicle (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/iranian-woman-nabbed-counterfeit-currency-mall-712), the report says that both these abhyasis of sahaj marg had overstayed their valid visa period and for reasons best known to Shri Ram Chandra mission, it was not checked or informed to the police that these two abhyasis are overstaying in India.
Complete article reads as follows:-
This news article was published in various newspaper across india, which include times of india, Chennai town, The Hindu, Zee News and many more...
There are more details in the Times of india report which has published the statement of Mylapore deputy commissioner of police, it says:-
These two abhyasis in addition to overstaying in india also had fake Indian currency notes, one of them is now arrested and other one is detained for questioning. Babuji Memorial ashram in chennai was also searched in this connection by police and their other contacts in SRCM are also under police scanner.
Sahaj marg as a practice promotes money laundering, and dealing in black money, if we take the comment of Joelly at its face value, P. Rajagopalachari insists on having money in cash and not in form of cheques or in a form in which it can be traced.
So is this spirituality? like Aasaram bapu, P. Rajagopalachari is a fake manipulative cunning and dis-honest person, these people are playing with the emotions of innocent people who seek spirituality, while looking for spirituality victims are trapped in fraud and manipulation and are made to commit crimes which under normal circumstances they would not have done.
In case of Aasaram bapu, those who follow him are called "Sadhak" (one who practice) in case of SRCM followers are called "Abhyasis" (one who practice) these cult use such names to trap people.
If you are a follower of sahaj marg and are reading this note, kindly open yourself to the possibility that sahaj marg is a fraud, it has got nothing to do with spirituality and all the gooblygoody talks of brighter world are nothing more then fooling tactics to milk you of your money, open your eyes and see the truth.
If you do not wake up now, you might well be caught doing some illegal activity like the two foreign national abhyasis of SRCM arrested in India for indulging in illicit activities, or like many followers of Aasaram bapu, or like followers of Dera saccha sauda.
Wake up before it gets too late and all doors are closed to you.
Just a few days back (30th Dec. 2009 to be precise) two foreign national were held by Chennai police for overstaying their visa period and possessing fake currency notes.
Kindly refer to news article published Deccan Chronicle (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chennai/iranian-woman-nabbed-counterfeit-currency-mall-712), the report says that both these abhyasis of sahaj marg had overstayed their valid visa period and for reasons best known to Shri Ram Chandra mission, it was not checked or informed to the police that these two abhyasis are overstaying in India.
Complete article reads as follows:-
Dec. 29: The city police on Monday arrested an Iranian woman who reportedly possessed fake currency and tried to purchase several articles from a well-known mall in Mylapore. They also seized counterfeit currency with the face value of Rs 27,500.
Further investigations revealed that the accused Ashraf Murtazavi (62) and her daughter Salomi Afthahi (29) hailing from Iran, held visas that had expired a few months ago and had overstayed.
The duo claimed that they came to India a few months ago to take meditation classes at a centre in Manapakkam. On Monday evening around 5.30 pm, the two went for shopping at a popular mall in Mylapore. When they handed over Rs 4,000 at the cash counter for settling the bills, the shop owner suspected the authenticity of the notes and alerted the police. The Mylapore police who rushed to the spot found that the currency notes were fake and picked up the two women for enquiry. Investigations revealed Ashraf Murtazavi was the one who held the fake notes and her daughter had no connections with it. “Ashraf Murtazavi claims that she got the currency notes from a Noor money exchanger which is under the supervision of Central bank of Iran. After enquiry we seized counterfeit notes with the face value of Rs 27,500 including the notes they had given at the mall,” said A.G Mourya, deputy commissioner, Mylapore.
This news article was published in various newspaper across india, which include times of india, Chennai town, The Hindu, Zee News and many more...
There are more details in the Times of india report which has published the statement of Mylapore deputy commissioner of police, it says:-
Asraf and Salom-e-Abtahi were in Chennai to attend meditation sessions at the Sri Ramachandra Mission Babuji Meditation Centre in Manapakkam. They had visited the city in July this year and stayed for more than 15 days.
“We have to verify whether Asraf had collected Indian currency from the exchange in Iran. We are also verifying if she had contacted any other person during her stay in the ashram in Manapakkam. We inspected her room in Manapakkam and collected some documents. We have asked immigration officials to check whether they are frequent visitors to Chennai and how long they had stayed here earlier. Also, whether they tendered fake currency at other shops in the city,” Mylapore deputy commissioner of police AG Mourya told The Times Of India.
These two abhyasis in addition to overstaying in india also had fake Indian currency notes, one of them is now arrested and other one is detained for questioning. Babuji Memorial ashram in chennai was also searched in this connection by police and their other contacts in SRCM are also under police scanner.
Sahaj marg as a practice promotes money laundering, and dealing in black money, if we take the comment of Joelly at its face value, P. Rajagopalachari insists on having money in cash and not in form of cheques or in a form in which it can be traced.
So is this spirituality? like Aasaram bapu, P. Rajagopalachari is a fake manipulative cunning and dis-honest person, these people are playing with the emotions of innocent people who seek spirituality, while looking for spirituality victims are trapped in fraud and manipulation and are made to commit crimes which under normal circumstances they would not have done.
In case of Aasaram bapu, those who follow him are called "Sadhak" (one who practice) in case of SRCM followers are called "Abhyasis" (one who practice) these cult use such names to trap people.
If you are a follower of sahaj marg and are reading this note, kindly open yourself to the possibility that sahaj marg is a fraud, it has got nothing to do with spirituality and all the gooblygoody talks of brighter world are nothing more then fooling tactics to milk you of your money, open your eyes and see the truth.
If you do not wake up now, you might well be caught doing some illegal activity like the two foreign national abhyasis of SRCM arrested in India for indulging in illicit activities, or like many followers of Aasaram bapu, or like followers of Dera saccha sauda.
Wake up before it gets too late and all doors are closed to you.
Friday, July 17, 2009
Rajagopalachari is not the president of the mission
A report published in Indian daily Amar Ujala (http://www.amarujala.com/today/default.asp) dated 27th June 2009, states that P. Rajagopalachari is not the president of Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Newspaper article can be found here ( http://www.freedom2think.org/documents/newspaper1.pdf )
Translation of this report is as follows:-
Rajagopalachari is not the president of the mission
Shahjahanpur, Amreeesh kumar, member of working committee of Shri Ram Chandra mission has said that parthasarthi rajagopalachari is a self proclaimed president of Shri Ram Chandra Mission, he also said that P rajagopalachari is running a parallel organization and is misguiding people by using name of Shri Ram Chandra mission, P. Rajagopalachari is already facing charges of illegal possession of property and other similar charges in court. Amreesh Kumar has further stated that in supreme court order dated
This short report was published by the newspaper in order to counter the false propaganda spread by P. Rajagaoplachari, that the supreme court of India has ordered that he is the president of Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
This particular episode from the daily soap of "sahaj marg spirituality" is something like this:-
Uma Shanker bajpai (secretory of chari group) published an advertisement in another newspaper (Dainik Jagran) that "according to the supreme court order P. Rajagopalachari has become the president of SRCM, and he is visiting shahjahanpur ashram after a gap of 19 years".
When this advertisement came to notice of parent body of SRCM (run by Shri Navneet kumar), a case was filed against Uma shanker bajpai and the newspaper which published this advertisement, this advertisement was part of the larger conspiracy of spreading false propaganda that according to supreme court order P. Rajagopalachari has won, whereas facts were just the opposite. ( the newspaper has since published an apology, copy of which i do not have currently)
Order regarding the case filed by original SRCM related to the advertisement issued in Dainik jagran was passed by Shahjahanpur court (case number 220/08) on
Now this to me seems to be a desperate attempt by
Translation of the order dated May 05 2009
Saturday, July 04, 2009
Sequence of Events (SRCM-1983-1984)
In my previous post i had published interviews and testimonials of some senior preceptors of Shri Ram Chandra mission, and all of them in one voice said P. Rajagopalachari was not elected as president of SRCM, but started his own group in parallel to what was functioning since 1945.
People who have testified till now are:-
1. Kasturi Chaturvedi
2. Dinaysh Kumar Saxena
3. Manbhawati devi
4. K.V Reddy
5. Punnet Saxena.
6. Amreesh Saxena.
Dispute between both the parties is still pending in court, and according to functionaries of SRCM-1945-India, there are violent clashes between the two group in court premises on each date of hearing.
Legal dispute is between Indian SRCM-1945 and California based SRCM-1997. Attempts for amicable settlement of the dispute was attempted, which failed, and matter reach in Indian court in 1984, and in USA court in 2000. (see here).
Matter is still lingering in court. (see here)
However we attempted to find out sequence of events which led to this situation, and is largely responsible for downfall of sahaj marg system of meditation, which currently is nothing more then a cult, involved in property shenanigans, poisoning, incest, divorces and other similar activities.
This all started immediately after death of the founder of Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Sequence of events are as follows:-
1. Founder died on 19th April 1983.
2. Meeting of working committee of SRCM was held on 10th June 1983, in which P. Rajagopalachari and Sharad Saxena presented their claims for nomination. (Umesh did not present his claim in the first meeting) no decision was taken at that time, it was agreed in the meeting that both the claims will be examined and decision will be taken in next meeting.
3. P. Rajagopalachari started influencing members. between 1st meeting and second meeting (according to Manbhawti Devi).
4. During this period, Umesh Chandra presented his claim.
5. Second Meeting (scheduled in 10th June 1983 meeting) took place on 6th and 7th Feb 1984 (two days).
6. In this meeting all the 3 claims were examined and Umesh Chandra was declared as president as his nomination letter was considered to be genuine by the members of the working committee.
Following people were present in the meeting:-
1. Mr. P.C Chaturvedi (Chairman of the meeting)
2. Mr. P.C Saxena.
3. Mr. B.M Heble
4. Mr. R. Rajagopalachari
5. Mr. R.L Mimani
6. Mr K.V Subba Rao
7. V.R Vipat
8. Dr. S.P Shrivastava
9. Mr. K.C Narayana
http://www.freedom2think.org/documents/minutesofwc1984.pdf
7. After this meeting, S.A Sarnad (who was appointed secretory of SRCM in 1982 by the founder) circulated the appointment of U.C Saxena as president of SRCM on 15 Feb 1984.
8. P.C Chaturvedi who was chairman of the committee which appointed Umesh Chandra Saxena as president of SRCM is father of Kasturi Chaturvedi, (who some say drifted towards Chari, then moved away from him) but while talking to me, she did not mention that she ever endorsed Chari's nomination as president, she told me that Chari was never appointed as President of SRCM, which is consistent with the resolution adopted in 1983-84 meeting's.
What followed there after is legal battle, which is continuing even today.
9. According to K.V Reddy, who was overseas secretory of SRCM since 1980, K.C Narayana was neutral till 1991, started his own group ISRC with a commitment to umesh chandra that his group will be merged in his, once the legal skirmishes are over.
If we read the documents containing minutes of working committee meeting of 1984, we will find that there were serious efforts to pacify P. Rajagopalachari, who are furious because he was not elected as president of Shri Ram Chandra Mission, and was adamant to break away, as the nomination letter produced by him was found to be result of forgery, still P. Rajagoplachari started his parallel organization and spoiled the very essence on which Sahaj marg system is based. (brotherhood amongst followers), as is case with other personal religions of the world namely Islam and Christianity.
Hinduism however believes in "Vasudeva Kutumbakam" (entire world is my family). Struggle for money and power defines sahaj marg. We all must be aware of these facts before we venture out in these cults.
I personally feel that information presented by various bloggers and website owners are enough to convince any normal thinking person that Sahaj marg (as it is today) is no-where related to spirituality or love, but for those who are trapped in, it will be difficult to digest these informations.
When i spoke to Dinaysh Kumar Saxena (grandson of lalaji), I realized that people in sahaj marg are intemidated, they are made to believe that they cannot survive outside sahaj marg, and mostly people are trapped in SRCM because of fear and psycological barries, they have had developed faith in this group, and when i read statements by those involved and i read them saying "My Mission" i sense the psycological manipulation here, where members are made to identify themselves with this cult. This treand is very dangerous, as any identification with any object is not spiritual, spirituality means freedom, identification is slavery which causes miseary.
In course of this faith, members are trained in not to use their thinking capacity and are made obedient so much so, that they fail to see the obvious.
I will cite an example here.
In year 2007 P. rajagopalachari celebrated his 80th birth anniversary (see here) I will reproduce what is written in that link:-
Sahaj Sandesh No: 2007.20 – Thursday, May 10, 2007
Dear Sister / Brother:
Registration for July 2007 Celebrations
The last date to register for Rev. Master’s 80th Birth Anniversary celebrations has been extended to May 31, 2007. Please ensure that all abhyasis who are planning on attending this auspicious and joyous occasion submit their registration forms by this date.
Now have a look at celebration for the year 2009:- (see here) it says:
Only two years have passed between 2007 and 2009, and P. Rajagopalachari has crossed 3 years. i.e according to sahaj marg logic 80+2=83.
We cannot expect those people to think who belive that 80+2=83. All the documents which we have presented here, will not convince those who believe that 80+2=83, those who know that 80+2 <> 83 but 82, will leave this cult immediatly and those who believe that 80+2=83 will continue to be an abhyasi.
Who can help those who do not care for their family, lie, manipulate and fools their family members because they have faith that 80+2=83!!
I cannot, but i can surly help those who still know that 80+2<>83.
With love
Shashwat
People who have testified till now are:-
1. Kasturi Chaturvedi
2. Dinaysh Kumar Saxena
3. Manbhawati devi
4. K.V Reddy
5. Punnet Saxena.
6. Amreesh Saxena.
Dispute between both the parties is still pending in court, and according to functionaries of SRCM-1945-India, there are violent clashes between the two group in court premises on each date of hearing.
Legal dispute is between Indian SRCM-1945 and California based SRCM-1997. Attempts for amicable settlement of the dispute was attempted, which failed, and matter reach in Indian court in 1984, and in USA court in 2000. (see here).
Matter is still lingering in court. (see here)
However we attempted to find out sequence of events which led to this situation, and is largely responsible for downfall of sahaj marg system of meditation, which currently is nothing more then a cult, involved in property shenanigans, poisoning, incest, divorces and other similar activities.
This all started immediately after death of the founder of Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Sequence of events are as follows:-
1. Founder died on 19th April 1983.
2. Meeting of working committee of SRCM was held on 10th June 1983, in which P. Rajagopalachari and Sharad Saxena presented their claims for nomination. (Umesh did not present his claim in the first meeting) no decision was taken at that time, it was agreed in the meeting that both the claims will be examined and decision will be taken in next meeting.
3. P. Rajagopalachari started influencing members. between 1st meeting and second meeting (according to Manbhawti Devi).
4. During this period, Umesh Chandra presented his claim.
5. Second Meeting (scheduled in 10th June 1983 meeting) took place on 6th and 7th Feb 1984 (two days).
6. In this meeting all the 3 claims were examined and Umesh Chandra was declared as president as his nomination letter was considered to be genuine by the members of the working committee.
Following people were present in the meeting:-
1. Mr. P.C Chaturvedi (Chairman of the meeting)
2. Mr. P.C Saxena.
3. Mr. B.M Heble
4. Mr. R. Rajagopalachari
5. Mr. R.L Mimani
6. Mr K.V Subba Rao
7. V.R Vipat
8. Dr. S.P Shrivastava
9. Mr. K.C Narayana
http://www.freedom2think.org/documents/minutesofwc1984.pdf
7. After this meeting, S.A Sarnad (who was appointed secretory of SRCM in 1982 by the founder) circulated the appointment of U.C Saxena as president of SRCM on 15 Feb 1984.
8. P.C Chaturvedi who was chairman of the committee which appointed Umesh Chandra Saxena as president of SRCM is father of Kasturi Chaturvedi, (who some say drifted towards Chari, then moved away from him) but while talking to me, she did not mention that she ever endorsed Chari's nomination as president, she told me that Chari was never appointed as President of SRCM, which is consistent with the resolution adopted in 1983-84 meeting's.
What followed there after is legal battle, which is continuing even today.
9. According to K.V Reddy, who was overseas secretory of SRCM since 1980, K.C Narayana was neutral till 1991, started his own group ISRC with a commitment to umesh chandra that his group will be merged in his, once the legal skirmishes are over.
If we read the documents containing minutes of working committee meeting of 1984, we will find that there were serious efforts to pacify P. Rajagopalachari, who are furious because he was not elected as president of Shri Ram Chandra Mission, and was adamant to break away, as the nomination letter produced by him was found to be result of forgery, still P. Rajagoplachari started his parallel organization and spoiled the very essence on which Sahaj marg system is based. (brotherhood amongst followers), as is case with other personal religions of the world namely Islam and Christianity.
Hinduism however believes in "Vasudeva Kutumbakam" (entire world is my family). Struggle for money and power defines sahaj marg. We all must be aware of these facts before we venture out in these cults.
I personally feel that information presented by various bloggers and website owners are enough to convince any normal thinking person that Sahaj marg (as it is today) is no-where related to spirituality or love, but for those who are trapped in, it will be difficult to digest these informations.
When i spoke to Dinaysh Kumar Saxena (grandson of lalaji), I realized that people in sahaj marg are intemidated, they are made to believe that they cannot survive outside sahaj marg, and mostly people are trapped in SRCM because of fear and psycological barries, they have had developed faith in this group, and when i read statements by those involved and i read them saying "My Mission" i sense the psycological manipulation here, where members are made to identify themselves with this cult. This treand is very dangerous, as any identification with any object is not spiritual, spirituality means freedom, identification is slavery which causes miseary.
In course of this faith, members are trained in not to use their thinking capacity and are made obedient so much so, that they fail to see the obvious.
I will cite an example here.
In year 2007 P. rajagopalachari celebrated his 80th birth anniversary (see here) I will reproduce what is written in that link:-
Sahaj Sandesh No: 2007.20 – Thursday, May 10, 2007
Dear Sister / Brother:
Registration for July 2007 Celebrations
The last date to register for Rev. Master’s 80th Birth Anniversary celebrations has been extended to May 31, 2007. Please ensure that all abhyasis who are planning on attending this auspicious and joyous occasion submit their registration forms by this date.
Now have a look at celebration for the year 2009:- (see here) it says:
Wednesday the 15th April 2009
Dear Brothers & Sisters,
Pranams! We are deeply grateful and joyous that our Beloved Master has graciously permitted us to celebrate His 83rd birthday at Tiruppur, India.
Only two years have passed between 2007 and 2009, and P. Rajagopalachari has crossed 3 years. i.e according to sahaj marg logic 80+2=83.
We cannot expect those people to think who belive that 80+2=83. All the documents which we have presented here, will not convince those who believe that 80+2=83, those who know that 80+2 <> 83 but 82, will leave this cult immediatly and those who believe that 80+2=83 will continue to be an abhyasi.
Who can help those who do not care for their family, lie, manipulate and fools their family members because they have faith that 80+2=83!!
I cannot, but i can surly help those who still know that 80+2<>83.
With love
Shashwat
Sunday, June 28, 2009
Shri Ram chandra Mission 1980-present
Sometime back during my last visit to India i spoke to kasturi Chaturvedi [(download Kasturi Chaturvedi interview) OR watch Kasturi Chaturvedi interview on youtube ] wherein I asked her how is it possible that a person like babuji could appoint a person like P. Rajagopalachari as president of his organization. Her response was "If you can think like this, then babuji was a special personality".
In nut-shell, she said, babuji did not appoint Chari as president of Sahaj marg. Since then i was trying to find the truth as what has led to downfall of sahaj marg, during this quest, recently i spoke to two prominent person's who were very active during 1980-1990.
First person i spoke to was K.V Reddy, who was appointed overseas secretory of SRCM in 1980 and Manbhawati Devi, who was a close disciple of babuji (founder of this mission).
K.V Reddy was the chairman of the function held in Paris in which Manbhawani Devi was present with babuji and informed us of the first hand account as what all happened there at that time.
K. V Reddy is the current secretory of SRCM (Navneet group). He was made overseas secretory of SRCM by founder of sahaj marg system, and was chairman of conference held in Paris-france, which was the last overseas conference attended by the founder.
Interview of K.V Reddy (interview is in English):-
In this conversation, Mr. K.V Reddy, who is part of sahaj marg system of meditation since 1976 onwards, explains the character of P. rajagopalachari, he explains that chari was very "possessive", and wanted to become president of SRCM at any cost, he was presenting himself as president of SRCM, while founder was healthy and was functioning, his activities such as attempting to break the mission and shift operations to Chennai (then Madras), made babuji to remove him from the post of secretory of SRCM for indian affairs in 1982. Chari wrote this letter in response to his removal from SRCM. At that time overseas secretory was K.V Reddy and secretory for indian affairs was P. Rajagopalachari, after removal of Chari, S.A Sarnad was made secretory of SRCM for Indian affairs, and chari was asked to leave.
After his removal from the post of secretory Chari was furious as he has been presenting himself as president of SRCM before abhyasis of south India and international abhaysis .
Chari purchased the tickets to paris on his own, and while in flight exchanged the boarding pass with kanshiram, who was given the seat next to babuji, chari somehow manipulated Kanshiram and sat next to babuji in flight.
Mr. K.V Reddy also informs that babuji was quite healthy while he was boarding the Air India flight to Paris, he walked till the aircraft himself, but when he reached paris, babuji was semi-conscious, initially they thought that it may be jet-leg, but later when kanshiram told everyone that as how chari was eager to sit next to babuji and in a way forced him to exchange boarding pass, convinced everyone that something was fishy about it.
While in france, no Indian other than K. V Reddy and Mrs. Manbhawani Devi Aggrwal were present around babuji during his stay in Paris, Andre pory and other europiens were more close to babuji than Chari. We are also informed that babuji did not gave personal sitting to members in Paris (barring two occassions), but this job was delegated to K.V Reddy, (the statement which was read in the hall by S.A Sarnad had K.V Reddy's name).
K.V reddy also informs that Babuji said that chari should not be allowed to come near him.
Same sentiments were echoed by Manbhawati devi also, she in an interview to me said that babuji was very upset on Chari, while in france, and did not wanted to even see him around.
Initial reply of Manbhawati Devi (interview is in hindi):-
While in france, Chari collaborated with some danish woman's, and started spreading the rummer that babuji has appointed him as the president of SRCM as babuji has now become old, (This information was given to K.V Reddy by a denish lady)
Chari was spreading this rummer that he has become president of SRCM, even before babuji expired.
According to Manbhawati Devi (who was present in the Paris conference and was in the room with babuji) Kanshiram abused and scolded Chari very aggresively, Manbhawati Devi also said that babuji was very upset on Chari, she narrated a specific instance wherein once in Shahjahanpur babuji asked her to sit in a car which was suppose to take him from his home to the ashram, Chari who was there told her that there is no room in the car and she cannot sit, at this she returned, and babuji when found that she was coming back asked her why she is not in the car, to which she replied that Chari has said that there is no room in car, at which babuji also returned and did not sit in the car, Chari then apologized, and babuji sat next to Chari, who was driving the car, and Manbhawati devi sat behind the car, but she said, babuji did not even looked at chari once.
She has also informed us about numerous incidences where Chari did not allowed babuji to even go for toilet or to brush his teeth, but forced him inside a room and made abhyasis enter the room one by one.
She was very sadden to see the condition of babuji, when chari was around.
Manbhawati devi further stated that Chari opposed the idea of babuji where he created zones for proper management of mission, on Chari's behest, some members from Chari group approached babuji and said that they are not comfortable with the concept of zone's presented by babuji, they threatened to leave the mission if this idea of zones was not dropped, babuji asked them to leave the mission, and this proved to be the beginning of difference between chari and babuji.
Manbhawati devi also informs us that babuji was quite concerned about Umesh Chandra and his well-being, babuji's attachment towards Umesh Chandra became stronger when his youngest son Sarvesh Chandra Saxena left babuji's home and started living in his wife's home.
All in all, Manbhawati devi has stated that Chari was not appointed representative of babuji, infect, she said that when babuji's signed papers where stolen babuji asked her to find out where those papers had gone missing, as he was afraid that someone might mis-use them.
Manbhawati devi has also refuted claim of Chari that babuji use to call abhyasis PIG's (see here), she also said that babuji was very much against the concept of marriages inside the mission, on the contrary babuji advocated that everyone should get married in his/her own caste (a practice still prominent in India).
All interview's of manbhawati devi can be downloaded from following location (interview is in hindi)
However, all members of the working committee of SRCM in 1983 rejected nomination letter presented and circulated by P. Rajagopalachari, soon after the death of babuji, primarily because the nomination letter presented by Chari stated that Chari has been appointed "president of sahaj marg system" and not of Shree Ram Chandra Mission, whereas there cannot be any president of sahaj marg system, but president can be for "Shri Ram Chandra Mission". Sahaj marg system is the name of a meditation method and is not an organization or a society which can have any president.
Everyone who was in sahaj marg at that time knew that sahaj marg is a meditation method, and hence there cannot be any president of sahaj marg system.
For clarity about this consider an example:- A person can become president of an organization and not of a product, to understand it better, Bell canada is a telecommunication company in Canada, which offer "broadband services" to its customers, can anyone become president of broadband technology?? and not of Bell canada? Can a person, who registered the company appoint someone as president for the services which the company offers and not for the company itself?
Based on this, and the evidence that signed letter heads were stolen from the office of SRCM, Chari's claim was rejected and nomination letter of Umesh Chandra was accepted, which was then circulated by the then secretory for internal affairs of SRCM, S.A Sarnad.
S.A Sarnad was made secretory after removing P. Rajagopalachari, on 28th july 1982 by babuji (founder of this system). Chari's removal was effective via Letter number P/60-2780 of of the mission , the letter in the link clearly states that S.A Saranad has been appointed as secretory of the mission. (June 28 1982)
One thing which we are very much sure of is that babuji was very upset on chari, to the point that he did not even wanted to see him around.
Dinaysh kumar saxena, (grandson of lalaji) voiced a similar opinion, but later he requested me to remove his interview from internet, (his detailed interview is now removed from this blog) as he was afraid that if he opens his mouth he may also meet the same fate (un-natural death) as Umesh Chandra has met, his admission can be found below.
Download his interview
Dinaysh Chandra has not yet asked me remove this confession. as and when i get request from Dinaysh Chandra to remove this, I will have no option but to remove it.
In essence mystery around Chari's nomination, and his subsequent hostile takeover of
SRCM has begun to give way to clarity.
We now know (from 3 different sources) that babuji was not at all happy with the activities of P. Rajagopalachari, so much so that he removed him from all administrative activities of SRCM, and did not liked his presence.
Manbhawati Devi, had given an example for this, she said, that babuji was preparing a preceptor, who was suppose to leave shahjahanpur later that day, Chari told babuji that his remaining two sitting he will give, babuji refused immediately and asked chari not to give sitting to that person.
We also now know that P. Rajagopalachari was very possessive about his position in SRCM and had already declared himself as president of SRCM while babuji was still alive.
Later after the death of babuji, Chari called everyone one-by-one and asked them if they are going to accept him as father or brother, according to Mabhawati Devi, Chari asked her also the same question, and she replied that babuji had already told her that Chari would do something like this, and she cannot accept chari in place of babuji as babuji himself have asked her not to do so.
P. Rajagopalachari has been able to manipulate innocent people with the help of some high ranking police officials and some ex-judges and some current administrative officials, presence of IPS, IAS and judges in his working committee clearly indicates that Shri Ram Chandra Mission run by P. Rajagopalachari is not for spiritual uplift-ment but for proper management of activities of P. Rajagopalachari during 1974-1995.
The funny part of all this drama is that, it is all in the name of spirituality!!!
Violence, (see here), fraud (see here), manipulation (see here) and cunning-ness (see here) which defines sahaj marg today can largely be attributed to selfishness and lust for power of P. Rajagopalachari.
We want to present the truth, brutal, honest, and naked truth!! We are not against the sahaj marg system of meditation, but we want everyone to know the truth before they get involved in anything of this kind.
Spirituality cannot be transmitted by a tained person, a person should claim to be spiritual only if s/he has come out of all controvercies and allegations levelled against him/her. Till matter is in court, one must not declear themselves as president of an organization, which is taken over by violence fraud and manipulation.
Thank You!!
Shashwat
In nut-shell, she said, babuji did not appoint Chari as president of Sahaj marg. Since then i was trying to find the truth as what has led to downfall of sahaj marg, during this quest, recently i spoke to two prominent person's who were very active during 1980-1990.
First person i spoke to was K.V Reddy, who was appointed overseas secretory of SRCM in 1980 and Manbhawati Devi, who was a close disciple of babuji (founder of this mission).
K.V Reddy was the chairman of the function held in Paris in which Manbhawani Devi was present with babuji and informed us of the first hand account as what all happened there at that time.
K. V Reddy is the current secretory of SRCM (Navneet group). He was made overseas secretory of SRCM by founder of sahaj marg system, and was chairman of conference held in Paris-france, which was the last overseas conference attended by the founder.
Interview of K.V Reddy (interview is in English):-
Sequence of events in ParisChari's removal from SRCM in 1982Current status of SRCMStatus of ISRC of K.C Narayana
In this conversation, Mr. K.V Reddy, who is part of sahaj marg system of meditation since 1976 onwards, explains the character of P. rajagopalachari, he explains that chari was very "possessive", and wanted to become president of SRCM at any cost, he was presenting himself as president of SRCM, while founder was healthy and was functioning, his activities such as attempting to break the mission and shift operations to Chennai (then Madras), made babuji to remove him from the post of secretory of SRCM for indian affairs in 1982. Chari wrote this letter in response to his removal from SRCM. At that time overseas secretory was K.V Reddy and secretory for indian affairs was P. Rajagopalachari, after removal of Chari, S.A Sarnad was made secretory of SRCM for Indian affairs, and chari was asked to leave.
After his removal from the post of secretory Chari was furious as he has been presenting himself as president of SRCM before abhyasis of south India and international abhaysis .
Chari purchased the tickets to paris on his own, and while in flight exchanged the boarding pass with kanshiram, who was given the seat next to babuji, chari somehow manipulated Kanshiram and sat next to babuji in flight.
Mr. K.V Reddy also informs that babuji was quite healthy while he was boarding the Air India flight to Paris, he walked till the aircraft himself, but when he reached paris, babuji was semi-conscious, initially they thought that it may be jet-leg, but later when kanshiram told everyone that as how chari was eager to sit next to babuji and in a way forced him to exchange boarding pass, convinced everyone that something was fishy about it.
While in france, no Indian other than K. V Reddy and Mrs. Manbhawani Devi Aggrwal were present around babuji during his stay in Paris, Andre pory and other europiens were more close to babuji than Chari. We are also informed that babuji did not gave personal sitting to members in Paris (barring two occassions), but this job was delegated to K.V Reddy, (the statement which was read in the hall by S.A Sarnad had K.V Reddy's name).
K.V reddy also informs that Babuji said that chari should not be allowed to come near him.
Same sentiments were echoed by Manbhawati devi also, she in an interview to me said that babuji was very upset on Chari, while in france, and did not wanted to even see him around.
Initial reply of Manbhawati Devi (interview is in hindi):-
While in france, Chari collaborated with some danish woman's, and started spreading the rummer that babuji has appointed him as the president of SRCM as babuji has now become old, (This information was given to K.V Reddy by a denish lady)
Chari was spreading this rummer that he has become president of SRCM, even before babuji expired.
According to Manbhawati Devi (who was present in the Paris conference and was in the room with babuji) Kanshiram abused and scolded Chari very aggresively, Manbhawati Devi also said that babuji was very upset on Chari, she narrated a specific instance wherein once in Shahjahanpur babuji asked her to sit in a car which was suppose to take him from his home to the ashram, Chari who was there told her that there is no room in the car and she cannot sit, at this she returned, and babuji when found that she was coming back asked her why she is not in the car, to which she replied that Chari has said that there is no room in car, at which babuji also returned and did not sit in the car, Chari then apologized, and babuji sat next to Chari, who was driving the car, and Manbhawati devi sat behind the car, but she said, babuji did not even looked at chari once.
She has also informed us about numerous incidences where Chari did not allowed babuji to even go for toilet or to brush his teeth, but forced him inside a room and made abhyasis enter the room one by one.
She was very sadden to see the condition of babuji, when chari was around.
Manbhawati devi further stated that Chari opposed the idea of babuji where he created zones for proper management of mission, on Chari's behest, some members from Chari group approached babuji and said that they are not comfortable with the concept of zone's presented by babuji, they threatened to leave the mission if this idea of zones was not dropped, babuji asked them to leave the mission, and this proved to be the beginning of difference between chari and babuji.
Manbhawati devi also informs us that babuji was quite concerned about Umesh Chandra and his well-being, babuji's attachment towards Umesh Chandra became stronger when his youngest son Sarvesh Chandra Saxena left babuji's home and started living in his wife's home.
All in all, Manbhawati devi has stated that Chari was not appointed representative of babuji, infect, she said that when babuji's signed papers where stolen babuji asked her to find out where those papers had gone missing, as he was afraid that someone might mis-use them.
Manbhawati devi has also refuted claim of Chari that babuji use to call abhyasis PIG's (see here), she also said that babuji was very much against the concept of marriages inside the mission, on the contrary babuji advocated that everyone should get married in his/her own caste (a practice still prominent in India).
All interview's of manbhawati devi can be downloaded from following location (interview is in hindi)
Manbhawati Devi Part-1Manbhawati Devi Part-2Manbhawati Devi Part-3Manbhawati Devi Part-4Manbhawati Devi Part-5Manbhawati Devi Part-6File by Bigupload.com
However, all members of the working committee of SRCM in 1983 rejected nomination letter presented and circulated by P. Rajagopalachari, soon after the death of babuji, primarily because the nomination letter presented by Chari stated that Chari has been appointed "president of sahaj marg system" and not of Shree Ram Chandra Mission, whereas there cannot be any president of sahaj marg system, but president can be for "Shri Ram Chandra Mission". Sahaj marg system is the name of a meditation method and is not an organization or a society which can have any president.
Everyone who was in sahaj marg at that time knew that sahaj marg is a meditation method, and hence there cannot be any president of sahaj marg system.
For clarity about this consider an example:- A person can become president of an organization and not of a product, to understand it better, Bell canada is a telecommunication company in Canada, which offer "broadband services" to its customers, can anyone become president of broadband technology?? and not of Bell canada? Can a person, who registered the company appoint someone as president for the services which the company offers and not for the company itself?
Based on this, and the evidence that signed letter heads were stolen from the office of SRCM, Chari's claim was rejected and nomination letter of Umesh Chandra was accepted, which was then circulated by the then secretory for internal affairs of SRCM, S.A Sarnad.
S.A Sarnad was made secretory after removing P. Rajagopalachari, on 28th july 1982 by babuji (founder of this system). Chari's removal was effective via Letter number P/60-2780 of of the mission , the letter in the link clearly states that S.A Saranad has been appointed as secretory of the mission. (June 28 1982)
One thing which we are very much sure of is that babuji was very upset on chari, to the point that he did not even wanted to see him around.
Dinaysh kumar saxena, (grandson of lalaji) voiced a similar opinion, but later he requested me to remove his interview from internet, (his detailed interview is now removed from this blog) as he was afraid that if he opens his mouth he may also meet the same fate (un-natural death) as Umesh Chandra has met, his admission can be found below.
Download his interview
Dinaysh Chandra has not yet asked me remove this confession. as and when i get request from Dinaysh Chandra to remove this, I will have no option but to remove it.
In essence mystery around Chari's nomination, and his subsequent hostile takeover of
SRCM has begun to give way to clarity.
We now know (from 3 different sources) that babuji was not at all happy with the activities of P. Rajagopalachari, so much so that he removed him from all administrative activities of SRCM, and did not liked his presence.
Manbhawati Devi, had given an example for this, she said, that babuji was preparing a preceptor, who was suppose to leave shahjahanpur later that day, Chari told babuji that his remaining two sitting he will give, babuji refused immediately and asked chari not to give sitting to that person.
We also now know that P. Rajagopalachari was very possessive about his position in SRCM and had already declared himself as president of SRCM while babuji was still alive.
Later after the death of babuji, Chari called everyone one-by-one and asked them if they are going to accept him as father or brother, according to Mabhawati Devi, Chari asked her also the same question, and she replied that babuji had already told her that Chari would do something like this, and she cannot accept chari in place of babuji as babuji himself have asked her not to do so.
P. Rajagopalachari has been able to manipulate innocent people with the help of some high ranking police officials and some ex-judges and some current administrative officials, presence of IPS, IAS and judges in his working committee clearly indicates that Shri Ram Chandra Mission run by P. Rajagopalachari is not for spiritual uplift-ment but for proper management of activities of P. Rajagopalachari during 1974-1995.
The funny part of all this drama is that, it is all in the name of spirituality!!!
Violence, (see here), fraud (see here), manipulation (see here) and cunning-ness (see here) which defines sahaj marg today can largely be attributed to selfishness and lust for power of P. Rajagopalachari.
We want to present the truth, brutal, honest, and naked truth!! We are not against the sahaj marg system of meditation, but we want everyone to know the truth before they get involved in anything of this kind.
Spirituality cannot be transmitted by a tained person, a person should claim to be spiritual only if s/he has come out of all controvercies and allegations levelled against him/her. Till matter is in court, one must not declear themselves as president of an organization, which is taken over by violence fraud and manipulation.
Thank You!!
Shashwat
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